GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

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GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby anubis1911 » Wed May 22, 2013 6:28 pm

My GPA is a 3.68 and I am scoring in the 167 area on my practice exams. I am an AA male. What is the minimum LSAT that I could get in order to have a decent chance at Harvard?

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby Typhoon24 » Wed May 22, 2013 6:45 pm

163-164, but u never know.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby HankBashir » Wed May 22, 2013 6:47 pm

The 3.5+/165+ GPA/LSAT combination is magical for AA males. It should will probably get you one of HYS barring any glaring application problems.
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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Wed May 22, 2013 6:57 pm

locked.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby essyct » Wed May 22, 2013 7:15 pm

Is that LSAT range the same for AA females? I currently have 3.8 GPA.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby bosmer88 » Wed May 22, 2013 8:04 pm

essyct wrote:Is that LSAT range the same for AA females? I currently have 3.8 GPA.


Yeah, both AA males and females have been a lock for at least one school in HYS with 3.5+/165+ as Hank Bashir pointed out.

I really hope you get that score or higher OP. Best of luck!

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby anubis1911 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:03 pm

So Yale is the same as Harvard? I thought that Yale didn't care about URMs because not a whole lot of us tend to get in from what I can see.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby Typhoon24 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:30 pm

yls is different from harvard, as it is less predictable. Those numbers should be okay for yale, but aa males with better numbers got rejected while ones with worse numbers got accepted. it's super confusing lol.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby bosmer88 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:48 pm

anubis1911 wrote:So Yale is the same as Harvard? I thought that Yale didn't care about URMs because not a whole lot of us tend to get in from what I can see.


Yale is...Yale. If you get an LSAT of 165+, you may get in, might be waitlisted, or even rejected. As the poster above me pointed out, Yale's process is both confusing and unpredictable.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Wed May 22, 2013 10:42 pm

Harvard is almost a lock at 3.5+/165+ AA.

Stanford is very likely with those numbers, and some decent softs

Yale is insanely unpredictable. Just this cycle and last, a 168/3.5 AA got into Yale while a 172/3.85 AA was waitlisted. So...

In any case, you're in a great way with those numbers. Congrats.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby dawyzest1 » Thu May 23, 2013 10:20 am

anubis1911 wrote:So Yale is the same as Harvard? I thought that Yale didn't care about URMs because not a whole lot of us tend to get in from what I can see.


They really couldn't be more different. I'd say get above at or above 165 and you'll get at least one of HYS. It could be all three could be just one. Good luck on the LSAT!

To JRR's point about our 3.5+/165+ crowd: I think lock is too strong for H. GW, Hank, and PRGradBYU all got an H WL. But each of the three got at least S and GW got Y and S. So I think lock for one of HYS is right, but wouldn't call a specific one a lock.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby PRgradBYU » Thu May 23, 2013 1:13 pm

anubis1911 wrote:My GPA is a 3.68 and I am scoring in the 167 area on my practice exams. I am an AA male. What is the minimum LSAT that I could get in order to have a decent chance at Harvard?


If you hit 167 on your actual LSAT, you're a lock for H and/or S (although as others ITT have indicated, you can score as low as 164 and still have a decent shot). Just shoot for the stars. Good luck!

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby amc987 » Fri May 24, 2013 3:04 pm

dawyzest1 wrote:
anubis1911 wrote:So Yale is the same as Harvard? I thought that Yale didn't care about URMs because not a whole lot of us tend to get in from what I can see.


They really couldn't be more different. I'd say get above at or above 165 and you'll get at least one of HYS. It could be all three could be just one. Good luck on the LSAT!

To JRR's point about our 3.5+/165+ crowd: I think lock is too strong for H. GW, Hank, and PRGradBYU all got an H WL. But each of the three got at least S and GW got Y and S. So I think lock for one of HYS is right, but wouldn't call a specific one a lock.



Speaking as the one AA male who didn't get HYS with the numbers you described, I wouldn't call it a lock. As others have mentioned, some people have gotten into H and S with those numbers, but they often don't get at least one of HYS. I have a few friends who were WL'd at Harvard with 3.5+/167+ last year. Most ended up getting in there and elsewhere (I have a few friends at SLS with numbers like this), so it's not like they did poorly. But they weren't auto-admits as someone else suggested.

I think his chances will be excellent if he gets 167+ on the LSAT. No one can tell for sure-- OP's results will depend a lot on the application package he presents. It can't hurt that applications are down again this year, though.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby HankBashir » Fri May 24, 2013 3:17 pm

Yeah, I hesitate calling anything with HYS admissions a sure thing.

Apply early (IIRC, GW, PRgrad, and I all applied early to mid January) and make sure to put together a good application package.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby anubis1911 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:06 pm

Also, granted everything goes well as far as LSAT. Since I know that I would accept Harvard over anything (besides Yale), should I ED? I hear a lot of people saying not to, but I don't understand why...

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby dawyzest1 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:29 pm

anubis1911 wrote:Also, granted everything goes well as far as LSAT. Since I know that I would accept Harvard over anything (besides Yale), should I ED? I hear a lot of people saying not to, but I don't understand why...


Harvard doesn't have an ED option. And shame on you for wanting Yale over Harvard. lol

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Fri May 24, 2013 4:42 pm

Amc987, just made the 30 rock connection, so you're MyWayTilPayday right? You had a great cycle but not sure why you didn't nab HYS as an AA male.

So yeah, I guess that threshold isn't a lock but close to it.

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Re: GPA and LSAT Combo for Harvard Law

Postby amc987 » Fri May 24, 2013 5:07 pm

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Amc987, just made the 30 rock connection, so you're MyWayTilPayday right? You had a great cycle but not sure why you didn't nab HYS as an AA male.

So yeah, I guess that threshold isn't a lock but close to it.


Haha, you figured me out. MyWayTilPayday is my LSN profile. I'm not sure why I didn't snag HYS either given some of the other people who were admitted, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.

I think OP can definitely get into top 3 schools with a 167+ LSAT score. I just wouldn't want him to count acceptances before they come and end up disappointed.




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