Black Canadian?

(BLS, URM status, non-traditional, GLBT)
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bosmer88
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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby bosmer88 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:25 pm

Xixak wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:
sublime wrote:You know, except for this guy:


MikeSpivey wrote:I have not read a single post in this thread, so apologies, but YES, you will be considered URM. Although I would not title your Diversity Statement: "Black Canadian?"


What I find confusing about this statement and many others in this thread is that Grutter vs Bollinger specifically mentions African-Americans when talking about underrepresented minority students. I don't deny the OP would offer some type of diversity (he/she is a person of color, comes from another country) which is allowable under the "current definition of AA" (the same could be said of someone who identifies as LGBTQ or is disabled) since it is extremely inclusive, but to say that he/she would count as URM as it is discussed in Grutter is what is really throwing me off in this thread.

I also get that many black people who don't identify as African-American get the boost the same as if they were African-American, but I really think that has more to do with the fact that they are citizens, residents, or undocumented, etc in the US and rarely does anyone want to get into the controversial issue of essentializing African-Americans. Additionally, black people, regardless of origin, often face similar challenges once in the US.

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What are you trying to get at with this? You're saying you wouldn't expect me to receive the type of boost a US Citizen would get?


Yeah, I personally wouldn't. But as others have written, I am splittings hairs while adcomms might not be. Apply and report back with your results. We would then have a better understanding of how international students (who are poc) fare.
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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:29 pm

^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby bosmer88 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:31 pm

Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:39 pm

bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.


Seems like the best course of action at this point since the URM boost is totally up in the air.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby bosmer88 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:47 pm

Xixak wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.


Seems like the best course of action at this point since the URM boost is totally up in the air.


Absolutely, you will sleep far easier at nights during your cycle. :)

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:35 pm

bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.


Seems like the best course of action at this point since the URM boost is totally up in the air.


Absolutely, you will sleep far easier at nights during your cycle. :)


Yes sir

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby ManoftheHour » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:38 am

Xixak wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.


Seems like the best course of action at this point since the URM boost is totally up in the air.


Most definitely the right course of action. Relying on the boost is TTT. Just study your ass off, apply, and if you get it, great, if not, it's okay. You got a 170+. You're still good for most of the schools you wanted to go to. You can't control your URM status. You can, however, control your LSAT score though. Knowing whether you qualify as a URM won't help you on the LSAT at all.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious to see how your cycle goes. I hope you'll update the thread when the time comes to help future applicants.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:19 am

ManoftheHour wrote:
Xixak wrote:
bosmer88 wrote:
Xixak wrote:^ I'm not applying till next year's cycle (Fall 2014), so that'll be a bit of a wait.


In the meantime, study for and kill the LSAT and this issue is something you need not worry about.


Seems like the best course of action at this point since the URM boost is totally up in the air.


Most definitely the right course of action. Relying on the boost is TTT. Just study your ass off, apply, and if you get it, great, if not, it's okay. You got a 170+. You're still good for most of the schools you wanted to go to. You can't control your URM status. You can, however, control your LSAT score though. Knowing whether you qualify as a URM won't help you on the LSAT at all.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious to see how your cycle goes. I hope you'll update the thread when the time comes to help future applicants.


Yeah I definitely will. I'm not applying until September 2014 though so it'll be a while

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:49 am

Everyone's been saying I'm a URM but I just read this on TLS' main page:

American Indians/Alaskan Natives, African Americans/Blacks, Mexican Americans, and Puerto Ricans are typically considered URM’s. Please note that there is a difference between Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and other types of Hispanics in the admissions process. Additionally, I would like to offer a small caveat to international students, who fall into a separate category of their own.


http://www.top-law-schools.com/urm-applicant-faq.html

This worries me.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby danitt » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:22 am

Xixak wrote:Everyone's been saying I'm a URM but I just read this on TLS' main page:

American Indians/Alaskan Natives, African Americans/Blacks, Mexican Americans, and Puerto Ricans are typically considered URM’s. Please note that there is a difference between Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and other types of Hispanics in the admissions process. Additionally, I would like to offer a small caveat to international students, who fall into a separate category of their own.


http://www.top-law-schools.com/urm-applicant-faq.html

This worries me.

JFC. You're a URM. Take it from me. International applicant.

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby Xixak » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:49 pm

danitt wrote:
Xixak wrote:Everyone's been saying I'm a URM but I just read this on TLS' main page:

American Indians/Alaskan Natives, African Americans/Blacks, Mexican Americans, and Puerto Ricans are typically considered URM’s. Please note that there is a difference between Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and other types of Hispanics in the admissions process. Additionally, I would like to offer a small caveat to international students, who fall into a separate category of their own.


http://www.top-law-schools.com/urm-applicant-faq.html

This worries me.

JFC. You're a URM. Take it from me. International applicant.


What is JFC?

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Re: Black Canadian?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:58 pm

Jesus effing Christ.




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