URM 2012-2013 Cycle... let's go!

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Postby BlaqBella » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:50 pm

Yaaaas2013 wrote:For personal statements and diversity statements, do law schools care about margins? Both of my essays are 2.5 pages long. I know I need to edit both so that they can be within the 2 page limit. Just wondering if anyone has used narrow margins or a font besides Times New Roman. Also, should we label each essay at the top? Thanks for any help!


No labels as its not a report you're giving.

As for margins, general rule is nothing less than 1" all around. Font does not have to be TNR, but stick to 11 point at a minimum, 12 maximum.

Some schools do specify their preference in the application.

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Postby thelawschoolproject » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:53 pm

Yaaaas2013 wrote:For personal statements and diversity statements, do law schools care about margins? Both of my essays are 2.5 pages long. I know I need to edit both so that they can be within the 2 page limit. Just wondering if anyone has used narrow margins or a font besides Times New Roman. Also, should we label each essay at the top? Thanks for any help!



I would actually put a header at the top of your statement, especially since you're doing multiple essays. Be sure to include your LSAC number on them, too.

ex. LXXXXXXX-Personal Statement-

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Postby Lawislife1 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:44 pm

Urm aa male 2.8 gpa :( 175 LSAT :D chances at columbia

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Postby astrodoggy » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:46 pm

currently dealing with mini panic attacks since I'm not hitting or exceeding my goal of 164 on practice tests often enough. school just really started cranking up too. the next two weeks are gonna be brutal. ugh!

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Postby dowu » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:54 pm

astrodoggy wrote:currently dealing with mini panic attacks since I'm not hitting or exceeding my goal of 164 on practice tests often enough. school just really started cranking up too. the next two weeks are gonna be brutal. ugh!

Same boat here. :(

Keep pushing!

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Postby Psib337 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:05 pm

nmop_apisdn wrote:
astrodoggy wrote:currently dealing with mini panic attacks since I'm not hitting or exceeding my goal of 164 on practice tests often enough. school just really started cranking up too. the next two weeks are gonna be brutal. ugh!

Same boat here. :(

Keep pushing!



Same, my nights/weeekends from not until the test consist of PTs and drilling

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Postby dowu » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Psib337 wrote:
nmop_apisdn wrote:
astrodoggy wrote:currently dealing with mini panic attacks since I'm not hitting or exceeding my goal of 164 on practice tests often enough. school just really started cranking up too. the next two weeks are gonna be brutal. ugh!

Same boat here. :(

Keep pushing!



Same, my nights/weeekends from not until the test consist of PTs and drilling

I need to jump on this boat. I keep screwing around with making music and hanging out with friends lol I'm just so sick of the LSAT already and it's humbling quality.

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Postby nigerian22 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:01 pm

A friend of mine is half-black, half-white. He checked both boxes. Will he lose the benefit of being an African American male (which he is!)? I mean aren't many of us biracial/multiracial...

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Postby Psib337 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:03 pm

nmop_apisdn wrote:
Psib337 wrote:
nmop_apisdn wrote:
astrodoggy wrote:currently dealing with mini panic attacks since I'm not hitting or exceeding my goal of 164 on practice tests often enough. school just really started cranking up too. the next two weeks are gonna be brutal. ugh!

Same boat here. :(

Keep pushing!



Same, my nights/weeekends from not until the test consist of PTs and drilling

I need to jump on this boat. I keep screwing around with making music and hanging out with friends lol I'm just so sick of the LSAT already and it's humbling quality.


Well of course after I said that tonight things came up and now it's 10 and I feel like i've lost a night. If I start a PT now I won't be done until after midnight and I've been up since 7 and working all day so drilling will probably be counter productive (lots of reading the stimulus 10 times and going, "I still don't know what it said but I'm gonna try and answer the question anyway). But tomorrow I will get my LSAT life together.

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Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:55 am

nigerian22 wrote:A friend of mine is half-black, half-white. He checked both boxes. Will he lose the benefit of being an African American male (which he is!)? I mean aren't many of us biracial/multiracial...



No. Your friend will sill count toward the school's AA population. And, there are more biracial/multiracial applicants out there than you might think.

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Postby dowu » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:28 am

nigerian22 wrote:A friend of mine is half-black, half-white. He checked both boxes. Will he lose the benefit of being an African American male (which he is!)? I mean aren't many of us biracial/multiracial...

Lol you sure that "friend" isn't you?

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Postby nigerian22 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:11 pm

Haha that is my friend. I underwent the process a few years ago. All the law school administrators (at least at mine and a few peer schools) are worried that SCOTUS will throw out AA in admissions in June, so this is mad rush season to have many URM's.

Does anyone know how big Chicago, Stanford, HLS and Columbia are on admitting URMs?

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Postby twenty » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:06 pm

nigerian22 wrote:Does anyone know how big Chicago, Stanford, HLS and Columbia are on admitting URMs?


They all have their differences. Chicago will dip super low in LSAT to admit URMs. Columbia offers a lot of leeway with GPA, but isn't that great for low LSATs, and waitlists a lot of candidates without outright rejecting them to (in my opinion) feel out if they get admitted to HYS/CN full ride. HLS, according to Gaia, is the most forgiving of low GPAs out of HYS, and is fairly predictable. Stanford is basically completely black box. Some URMs with outstanding numbers get dinged, and some URMs with bad numbers get in. Who's to say.

In my opinion, the only two schools that are "bad" at URM admissions are UVA and UPenn. Once you get in (usually contingent on meeting a median), it seems they'll offer you a lot of money, though.

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Postby lawprospie » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:53 pm

twentypercentmore wrote:Chicago will dip super low in LSAT to admit URMs.


Out of curiosity, what makes you say this? I haven't seen this to be necessarily true, but I could be wrong.

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Postby twenty » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:00 pm

lawprospie wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:Chicago will dip super low in LSAT to admit URMs.


Out of curiosity, what makes you say this? I haven't seen this to be necessarily true, but I could be wrong.


Stuff like this: http://myLSN.info/xxcwy2

It makes me think a low LSAT applicant could ED fairly easily to UChi.

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Postby lawprospie » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:15 pm

twentypercentmore wrote:
lawprospie wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:Chicago will dip super low in LSAT to admit URMs.


Out of curiosity, what makes you say this? I haven't seen this to be necessarily true, but I could be wrong.


Stuff like this: http://myLSN.info/xxcwy2

It makes me think a low LSAT applicant could ED fairly easily to UChi.


By super low I thought you were suggesting high 150s. The numbers don't lie...but I've noticed if you play with the fields LSN chances generator in the slightest ways, the outcomes can become significantly different. Even though the ranges might be small...you have to think a 3.5/161 is way different than a 3.7/163

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Postby twenty » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:24 pm

lawprospie wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:
lawprospie wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:Chicago will dip super low in LSAT to admit URMs.


Out of curiosity, what makes you say this? I haven't seen this to be necessarily true, but I could be wrong.


Stuff like this: http://myLSN.info/xxcwy2

It makes me think a low LSAT applicant could ED fairly easily to UChi.


By super low I thought you were suggesting high 150s. The numbers don't lie...but I've noticed if you play with the fields LSN chances generator in the slightest ways, the outcomes can become significantly different. Even though the ranges might be small...you have to think a 3.5/161 is way different than a 3.7/163


Even there: http://myLSN.info/drjlq6

But you're right, specifically with URMs, because there might only be 5 or 6 applicants in your range over the last four years. Plus, you don't know if those rejected URMs are morons that go "Oh, I've been out of school for three years, so I'm a URM!" or accepted ones are trolls.

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Postby JonDefuture » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:40 pm

Hey, AA here. 2012-2013 cycle. Im taking the lsat in October, and im nervous. Any advice on how I can score well on test day?

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Postby BlaqBella » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:43 pm

JonDefuture wrote:Hey, AA here. 2012-2013 cycle. Im taking the lsat in October, and im nervous. Any advice on how I can score well on test day?



What are you currently scoring on the exam? What are your stats? Where are you aiming to attend?

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Postby astrodoggy » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:35 pm

2 weeks 'til LSAT and I'm trying not to freak out with every positive or negative fluctuation in my score. I think the most nerve wracking part is the fact that AA cycles are so unpredictable that your score may end up being enough when you don't think it is, and the opposite. Ranges are kind of nebulous and soft factors are subjective. Oh the uncertainty...

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Postby dowu » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:39 pm

astrodoggy wrote:2 weeks 'til LSAT and I'm trying not to freak out with every positive or negative fluctuation in my score. I think the most nerve wracking part is the fact that AA cycles are so unpredictable that your score may end up being enough when you don't think it is, and the opposite. Ranges are kind of nebulous and soft factors are subjective. Oh the uncertainty...

Been battling with this too. I'm shooting for the median score at the schools I want to get into. I'm not sure if this is sufficient or necessary, and quite frankly, it might be niether.

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Postby astrodoggy » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:53 pm

nmop_apisdn wrote:
astrodoggy wrote:2 weeks 'til LSAT and I'm trying not to freak out with every positive or negative fluctuation in my score. I think the most nerve wracking part is the fact that AA cycles are so unpredictable that your score may end up being enough when you don't think it is, and the opposite. Ranges are kind of nebulous and soft factors are subjective. Oh the uncertainty...

Been battling with this too. I'm shooting for the median score at the schools I want to get into. I'm not sure if this is sufficient or necessary, and quite frankly, it might be niether.

Same here! Aim high and hope for the best. I think especially having a so-so GPA (3.45 not awful but nothing to write home about either) adds to it. low 160s could very well put me in play at t-6 but you just don't know. *buries head back into LSAT prep book*

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Postby lawprospie » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:35 pm

astrodoggy wrote:
nmop_apisdn wrote:
astrodoggy wrote:2 weeks 'til LSAT and I'm trying not to freak out with every positive or negative fluctuation in my score. I think the most nerve wracking part is the fact that AA cycles are so unpredictable that your score may end up being enough when you don't think it is, and the opposite. Ranges are kind of nebulous and soft factors are subjective. Oh the uncertainty...

Been battling with this too. I'm shooting for the median score at the schools I want to get into. I'm not sure if this is sufficient or necessary, and quite frankly, it might be niether.

Same here! Aim high and hope for the best. I think especially having a so-so GPA (3.45 not awful but nothing to write home about either) adds to it. low 160s could very well put me in play at t-6 but you just don't know. *buries head back into LSAT prep book*


I think a lot of us are operating on the same brain wave. I'm definitely in this boat. The pressure is getting real. I just got back into this morning while on the train. I did two timed sections of June 2007...the one with the brutal curve. I already have -7 from two sections.

Also, I tried to study on Saturday but that turned into an early jay-z listening party.

#struggles

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Postby bizzybone1313 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:46 pm

Does anyone know if its true that minority apps to LS are down substantially over the past few cycles?




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