Trouble Improving LSAT Score

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pleadthe5th88
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Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby pleadthe5th88 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:11 am

why do some people with such high GPA's (3.8 and above) score low (below 150) on the lsat? What are some of the signs that an individual will tend to struggle with improving their lsat score? Personally, I feel like if you have not seen consistent improvement over the first two months of studying the lsat material, your score has little chance for improvement. Thats just my opinion though. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this subject?

Also, does anyone believe the LSAT produces questions designed to trick its test takers? In my own experience, I found that on many occasions I narrowed the answer choices down to 2 answers only to pick the wrong one of the two more often than not. Even after reviewing those "shell game" answers, I was unable to understand why the lsat test makers selected the particular answer choice. The language use between the two was so similar that either one could have conceivably been the correct answer. I feel like the LSAT test makers can get away with this simply because the test is more reading intensive (therefore, more subjective, ambiguous, etc) as opposed to questions on the GMAT or MCAT which are both more mathematical in nature (less ambiguous, more objective, etc). Thoughts?

subtle
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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby subtle » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:59 am

Not like the law is open to interpretation or anything...

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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby MachineLemon » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:12 am

I disagree. Ideally you should be able to see why each answer is correct. While the questions are designed to make wrong choices appealing, the reason they seem appealing is always fallacious. If this weren't the case, how could anybody consistently score 170+? Good guessers? Lucky?

This does take time. I took a lot of practice tests (months worth) before I finally had a breakthrough moment. Things like the powerscore bibles will certainly help, but there is no substitute for a study partner that can consistently help you understand your errors. Even if he or she is not taking the test, you may be able to find a law student, professor, or fellow student willing to help. (I never took a class, too rich for my blood.) You could even post one or two of the really difficult ones here for advice.

pleadthe5th88
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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby pleadthe5th88 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:29 pm

Here is a good example of what I am referring to. Can anyone give a GOOD explanation as to why C is 100% wrong and D is 100% right. Personally, I feel like C is a valid answer and I cannot see why this answer is wrong.

5. Advertisement: Northwoods Maple Syrup, made the old-fashioned way, is simply tops for taste. And here is the proof: in a recent market survey, 7 out of every 10 shoppers who expressed a preference said that Northwoods was the only maple syrup for them, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Of the following, which one is the strongest reason why the advertisement is potentially misleading?
(A) The proportion of shoppers expressing no preference might have been very small.
(B) Other brands of maple syrup might also be made the old-fashioned way.
(C) No market survey covers more than a sizable minority of the total population of consumers.
(D) The preference for the Northwoods brand might be based on such a factor as an exceptionally low price.
(E) Shoppers who buy syrup might buy only maple syrup

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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby law4vus » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:37 pm

pleadthe5th88 wrote:Here is a good example of what I am referring to. Can anyone give a GOOD explanation as to why C is 100% wrong and D is 100% right. Personally, I feel like C is a valid answer and I cannot see why this answer is wrong.

5. Advertisement: Northwoods Maple Syrup, made the old-fashioned way, is simply tops for taste. And here is the proof: in a recent market survey, 7 out of every 10 shoppers who expressed a preference said that Northwoods was the only maple syrup for them, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Of the following, which one is the strongest reason why the advertisement is potentially misleading?
(A) The proportion of shoppers expressing no preference might have been very small.
(B) Other brands of maple syrup might also be made the old-fashioned way.
(C) No market survey covers more than a sizable minority of the total population of consumers.
(D) The preference for the Northwoods brand might be based on such a factor as an exceptionally low price.
(E) Shoppers who buy syrup might buy only maple syrup


C is incorrect because the passage doesn't make generalizations based on the entire population of customers, only those "who showed a preference". As such, the survey not covering the total population of customers isn't of consequence here.

D is correct because it provides an alternate conclusion to the conclusion made in the passage based on the same evidence. The syrup is preferred because of price, not taste, which discounts the conclusion of the argument.

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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby subtle » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:57 pm

law4vus wrote:
pleadthe5th88 wrote:Here is a good example of what I am referring to. Can anyone give a GOOD explanation as to why C is 100% wrong and D is 100% right. Personally, I feel like C is a valid answer and I cannot see why this answer is wrong.

5. Advertisement: Northwoods Maple Syrup, made the old-fashioned way, is simply tops for taste. And here is the proof: in a recent market survey, 7 out of every 10 shoppers who expressed a preference said that Northwoods was the only maple syrup for them, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Of the following, which one is the strongest reason why the advertisement is potentially misleading?
(A) The proportion of shoppers expressing no preference might have been very small.
(B) Other brands of maple syrup might also be made the old-fashioned way.
(C) No market survey covers more than a sizable minority of the total population of consumers.
(D) The preference for the Northwoods brand might be based on such a factor as an exceptionally low price.
(E) Shoppers who buy syrup might buy only maple syrup


C is incorrect because the passage doesn't make generalizations based on the entire population of customers, only those "who showed a preference". As such, the survey not covering the total population of customers isn't of consequence here.

D is correct because it provides an alternate conclusion to the conclusion made in the passage based on the same evidence. The syrup is preferred because of price, not taste, which discounts the conclusion of the argument.



Furthermore, just because an answer such as C could be true, doesn't make it correct if it doesn't deal with the assumption of the question. The assumption here is that because 7 of 10 shoppers prefer Northwood it is BECAUSE of its superior taste. The correct answer has to deal with this assumption somehow and C doesn't, therefore, is beyond the scope.

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Re: Trouble Improving LSAT Score

Postby Rawlberto » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:03 pm

I only read the first sentence of your post and groaned.
1) Get the LR and LG Bibles
2) Review every answer you got wrong, guessed at, and had to stress over another question.
3) This is a learnable test.



My cold diagnostic was a 142. I scored a 164 this october, but I plan on retaking. I'm retaking because I got lazy in regards to fixing mistakes. I know I have a 170+ in me. Always aim to get every single question correct. Aim for a 180.




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