168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

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168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby hangqianli » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:14 am

I've posted this in the chance section, but I think i'll put it here again for some other ideas.

I'm an international student from China, so I think no strong preference for law school locations. Gay friendly schools are slightly preferred. I have no working experience.

Can anyone let me know where to apply? Do you guys think I should ed anywhere?

Thanks in advance

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Stanford4Me » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:05 pm

I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

Were you BORN and BRED for SUCCESS and ACHIEVEMENT?!?!?!1!!1!11!!!

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Ginj » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:09 pm

Stanford4Me wrote:I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

Were you BORN and BRED for SUCCESS and ACHIEVEMENT?!?!?!1!!1!11!!!


It's a grade-level for international applicants.

Good one, though.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:13 pm

Stanford4Me wrote:I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

When evaluating foreign applicants' transcripts, LSAC doesn't summarize them into an LSAC GPA, instead assigning them a rating. "Superior" is the top rating they give to foreign transcripts.

So yes, it's probably very likely he was born and bred for success and achievement.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Stanford4Me » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:14 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

When evaluating foreign applicants' transcripts, LSAC doesn't summarize them into an LSAC GPA, instead assigning them a rating. "Superior" is the top rating they give to foreign transcripts.

So yes, it's probably very likely he was born and bred for success and achievement.

Well, I guess you learn something new every day.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:17 pm

Stanford4Me wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

When evaluating foreign applicants' transcripts, LSAC doesn't summarize them into an LSAC GPA, instead assigning them a rating. "Superior" is the top rating they give to foreign transcripts.

So yes, it's probably very likely he was born and bred for success and achievement.

Well, I guess you learn something new every day.

Come on, you need to know these things if you ever want to get into Stanford.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby Stanford4Me » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:19 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:I'm sorry...what does "superior" mean?

When evaluating foreign applicants' transcripts, LSAC doesn't summarize them into an LSAC GPA, instead assigning them a rating. "Superior" is the top rating they give to foreign transcripts.

So yes, it's probably very likely he was born and bred for success and achievement.

Well, I guess you learn something new every day.

Come on, you need to know these things if you ever want to get into Stanford.

I think I'll transfer to Samford University.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby piccolittle » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:20 pm

With a Superior, you have an excellent shot everywhere, and the only thing that would keep you out of, say, Harvard or Yale would be your LSAT score. I think you would have a very good shot at Berkeley and perhaps Stanford (notoriously GPA-heavy and seemingly gay friendly), but honestly if you can retake for a 171+ I think that would be worthwhile if you're interested in the very top schools.

Good luck!

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby hangqianli » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:55 pm

Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes superior is one of the GPA descriptions given by LSAC, among "below average" "average" "above average" and "superior".

And do I qualify for URM status (for being an asian gay) if I'm not an american citizen?

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:58 pm

hangqianli wrote:Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes superior is one of the GPA descriptions given by LSAC, among "below average" "average" "above average" and "superior".

And do I qualify for URM status (for being an asian gay) if I'm not an american citizen?

sexual orientation is not a URM thing, and asian seems to get a URM boost. Berkeley seems like the place for you btw

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:03 pm

I read this as "super gay international applicant"

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby TheFriendlyBarber » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:05 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:I read this as "super gay international applicant"


:lol:

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:06 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:I read this as "super gay international applicant"

This is funny cause I imagine Quagmire saying it

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:07 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
hangqianli wrote:Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes superior is one of the GPA descriptions given by LSAC, among "below average" "average" "above average" and "superior".

And do I qualify for URM status (for being an asian gay) if I'm not an american citizen?

sexual orientation is not a URM thing, and asian seems to get a URM boost. Berkeley seems like the place for you btw


:?: :?: :?:

I'm assuming typo since JMJ knows better. Asians are ORM. And even if you were AA or Mexican, it doesn't seem like internationals get too much of a URM boost.

Your GPA will be more or less a soft since they won't disclose it to USNWR. Shoot for the highest LSAT you can get because it's the only number that will matter. You're not Berkeley secure and I don't think you'll even be looked at by the Stansbury of the West with that LSAT. 172+ is the only way to guarantee T14, although I will concede that Berkeley and Cornell will most likely both give you good looks.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:14 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
hangqianli wrote:Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes superior is one of the GPA descriptions given by LSAC, among "below average" "average" "above average" and "superior".

And do I qualify for URM status (for being an asian gay) if I'm not an american citizen?

sexual orientation is not a URM thing, and asian seems to get a URM boost. Berkeley seems like the place for you btw


:?: :?: :?:

I'm assuming typo since JMJ knows better. Asians are ORM. And even if you were AA or Mexican, it doesn't seem like internationals get too much of a URM boost.

Your GPA will be more or less a soft since they won't disclose it to USNWR. Shoot for the highest LSAT you can get because it's the only number that will matter. You're not Berkeley secure and I don't think you'll even be looked at by the Stansbury of the West with that LSAT. 172+ is the only way to guarantee T14, although I will concede that Berkeley and Cornell will most likely both give you good looks.

Nice catch Descarte :oops: I did mean that Asian's are not URMs

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:31 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
hangqianli wrote:Sorry for the ambiguity. Yes superior is one of the GPA descriptions given by LSAC, among "below average" "average" "above average" and "superior".

And do I qualify for URM status (for being an asian gay) if I'm not an american citizen?

sexual orientation is not a URM thing, and asian seems to get a URM boost. Berkeley seems like the place for you btw


:?: :?: :?:

I'm assuming typo since JMJ knows better. Asians are ORM. And even if you were AA or Mexican, it doesn't seem like internationals get too much of a URM boost.

Your GPA will be more or less a soft since they won't disclose it to USNWR. Shoot for the highest LSAT you can get because it's the only number that will matter. You're not Berkeley secure and I don't think you'll even be looked at by the Stansbury of the West with that LSAT. 172+ is the only way to guarantee T14, although I will concede that Berkeley and Cornell will most likely both give you good looks.

Nice catch Descarte :oops: I did mean that Asian's are not URMs


:wink: Your back. I got it.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby hangqianli » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:08 am

Thanks for your help. I appreciate that!

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby jim-green » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:19 pm

What US GPA does Superior correspond to? And Above-average?

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:24 pm

jim-green wrote:What US GPA does Superior correspond to? And Above-average?


Uh, well they're not going to convert your marks to a GPA, but if you just want to know as like a public service sort of thing,

    A 90–100 3.5–4.0
    B 80–89 2.5–3.49
    C 70–79 1.5–2.49
    D 60–69 1.0–1.49
    F 0–59 0.0–0.99

With the first number corresponding to the percentage you have in the class and the latter range typically corresponding to the GPA. It's not totally accurate, though, since straight A-s should net you a 3.7 at the lowest, so to get a 3.5 there would have to be some Bs mixed in there, and vice versa in that straight B+s would yield you a 3.3.

HTH.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby jim-green » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:40 am

descartesb4thehorse wrote:With the first number corresponding to the percentage you have in the class and the latter range typically corresponding to the GPA. It's not totally accurate, though, since straight A-s should net you a 3.7 at the lowest, so to get a 3.5 there would have to be some Bs mixed in there, and vice versa in that straight B+s would yield you a 3.3.
HTH.
Thanks a lot! Yes, there is a big range between 3.5-4 for Superior.

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Re: 168/ superior/ gay/ international applicant- which schools??

Postby applepiecrust » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:39 pm

Michigan. Cornell. Berkeley. Georgetown.




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