2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:48 am

Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



Yup and dinged last week.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:25 am

Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



I think YHS has been very slow when it comes it URMs...I have met many minorities who still don't know where they are going because they have not heard a peep from all three school. But many minorities I met did not apply to Yale, it don't think Yale does enough to attract minorities or gives minorities hope that they could get in. Harvard (likely due to its class sizes) usually pulls many urms and Stanford with its weird process admits urms that people would have thought had no chance.

But apart from that minority package they send out, Yale really does not seem to have a rep that draws minorities...some people usually just apply so they have no regrets.

in regards to the activity of this thread..i think we speculated and could not end up with a reason why it was like this

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby whenwin » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:27 am

Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'

Applied in October and still no word from YHS. Had no idea when I applied that I would still not have decisions going into April. :?

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby kindaklueless » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:29 am

thelawschoolproject wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



Yup and dinged last week.


Applied and dinged last month.

And I'm holding out hope this Harvard/Stanford-slow-to-accept-URMs-this-cycle speculation is correct and not simply that most URMs that have been accepted aren't on TLS/LSN. My gut says it's the latter (why wouldn't both schools want them at their admit days?).

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:49 am

kindaklueless wrote:
thelawschoolproject wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



Yup and dinged last week.


Applied and dinged last month.

And I'm holding out hope this Harvard/Stanford-slow-to-accept-URMs-this-cycle speculation is correct and not simply that most URMs that have been accepted aren't on TLS/LSN. My gut says it's the latter (why wouldn't both schools want them at their admit days?).



U could be very right...but i really do not think a good # of people (including urms) turn down their admission to to YHS because they could not make the ASW to see the school...schools know this. I think ASW is really helpful for people deciding between Y/H/S. For lower ranked schools its a different ball game.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby kindaklueless » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:05 pm

sharktankdean wrote:
kindaklueless wrote:
thelawschoolproject wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



Yup and dinged last week.


Applied and dinged last month.

And I'm holding out hope this Harvard/Stanford-slow-to-accept-URMs-this-cycle speculation is correct and not simply that most URMs that have been accepted aren't on TLS/LSN. My gut says it's the latter (why wouldn't both schools want them at their admit days?).



U could be very right...but i really do not think a good # of people (including urms) turn down their admission to to YHS because they could not make the ASW to see the school...schools know this. I think ASW is really helpful for people deciding between Y/H/S. For lower ranked schools its a different ball game.


Yeah, that makes sense. I should have stalked all the URMs at Columbia last week to ask them if they'd heard back from H or S.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby amc987 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:35 pm

FWIW, I haven't heard back from H or S and I applied in October. Didn't apply to Y.

Does anyone else think they have to get back to us within the next 2 weeks-ish?

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:52 pm

amc987 wrote:FWIW, I haven't heard back from H or S and I applied in October. Didn't apply to Y.

Does anyone else think they have to get back to us within the next 2 weeks-ish?



Honestly this cycle is so unpredictable but i would say they have to get back to most of the app pool in 2 weeks because thats when deposit deadlines for most schools are due.

After this cycle...i have a new found respect for people who re-apply...i really can't go through this shit twice.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby vincanity1 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:11 pm

Cycle is over so I wanted to share

3.77 173 from big state school
Cuban (non-URM hispanic)

In:
University of Chicago (75k)
NYU (AnBryce Finalist, Winner)
Berkeley (0k)
UVA (90k)
Duke (Didn't apply for aid)

Waitlist: Michigan, Penn, Harvard (Held), Columbia (Hold)

Straight ding: Stanford

I'll be at NYU come August. Good luck to everyone else on here. Hoping there turns out to be some big waitlist movement as expected

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:20 pm

vincanity1 wrote:Cycle is over so I wanted to share

3.77 173 from big state school
Cuban (non-URM hispanic)

In:
University of Chicago (75k)
NYU (AnBryce Finalist, Winner)
Berkeley (0k)
UVA (90k)
Duke (Didn't apply for aid)

Waitlist: Michigan, Penn, Harvard (Held), Columbia (Hold)

Straight ding: Stanford

I'll be at NYU come August. Good luck to everyone else on here. Hoping there turns out to be some big waitlist movement as expected



CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby vincanity1 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:29 pm

sharktankdean wrote:
vincanity1 wrote:Cycle is over so I wanted to share

3.77 173 from big state school
Cuban (non-URM hispanic)

In:
University of Chicago (75k)
NYU (AnBryce Finalist, Winner)
Berkeley (0k)
UVA (90k)
Duke (Didn't apply for aid)

Waitlist: Michigan, Penn, Harvard (Held), Columbia (Hold)

Straight ding: Stanford

I'll be at NYU come August. Good luck to everyone else on here. Hoping there turns out to be some big waitlist movement as expected



CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you! I'm pumped.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby 1212 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:30 pm

sharktankdean wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



I think YHS has been very slow when it comes it URMs...I have met many minorities who still don't know where they are going because they have not heard a peep from all three school. But many minorities I met did not apply to Yale, it don't think Yale does enough to attract minorities or gives minorities hope that they could get in. Harvard (likely due to its class sizes) usually pulls many urms and Stanford with its weird process admits urms that people would have thought had no chance.

But apart from that minority package they send out, Yale really does not seem to have a rep that draws minorities...some people usually just apply so they have no regrets.

in regards to the activity of this thread..i think we speculated and could not end up with a reason why it was like this


My experience was really different. Yale was the only one out of YHS that sent me unsolicited information about their school. It wasn't even the standard "CRS told us you're URM, so here is our bulletin" crap either. It had sample 250s and personal statements from minority 1Ls as well as tips for a successful application.

Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby cylon_clone » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:30 pm

the latest:

In:
Cornell

Pending:
NYU
Stanford

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby whenwin » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:13 pm

1212 wrote:Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.

Maybe your early Stanford acceptance makes it slightly different?
I've been waiting for Yale, Harvard and Stanford for 5+ months. Sure Harvard was the only one to officially tell me I was being held, but I don't feel that Harvard holding my app for so long is any more ridiculous than the others.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby whenwin » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:14 pm

Btw congrats vincanity, amazing cycle.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:15 pm

1212 wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



I think YHS has been very slow when it comes it URMs...I have met many minorities who still don't know where they are going because they have not heard a peep from all three school. But many minorities I met did not apply to Yale, it don't think Yale does enough to attract minorities or gives minorities hope that they could get in. Harvard (likely due to its class sizes) usually pulls many urms and Stanford with its weird process admits urms that people would have thought had no chance.

But apart from that minority package they send out, Yale really does not seem to have a rep that draws minorities...some people usually just apply so they have no regrets.

in regards to the activity of this thread..i think we speculated and could not end up with a reason why it was like this


My experience was really different. Yale was the only one out of YHS that sent me unsolicited information about their school. It wasn't even the standard "CRS told us you're URM, so here is our bulletin" crap either. It had sample 250s and personal statements from minority 1Ls as well as tips for a successful application.

Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.



that made me laugh so hard for some reason.
yeah i got the Yale brochure and yes it did look like some effort was put into it...but it seemed that packet was really put together by the minority groups...if those groups didn't do that that packet would have been like every other school. I don't the admissions office by itself really does anything that makes urms want to come.

As for Harvard. I always get offended but then i remember that both deans were pregnant and i don't feel as turned off..i mean its hard to get pissed off at women who carry life in them for 9 months and then have to push it out...the horror.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Alltheirsplendor » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:21 pm

1212 wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
Alltheirsplendor wrote:Last year's URM thread was more poppin'

Anyone throw an app at Yale? I know a lot of URMs don't apply... But I was wonderin'



I think YHS has been very slow when it comes it URMs...I have met many minorities who still don't know where they are going because they have not heard a peep from all three school. But many minorities I met did not apply to Yale, it don't think Yale does enough to attract minorities or gives minorities hope that they could get in. Harvard (likely due to its class sizes) usually pulls many urms and Stanford with its weird process admits urms that people would have thought had no chance.

But apart from that minority package they send out, Yale really does not seem to have a rep that draws minorities...some people usually just apply so they have no regrets.

in regards to the activity of this thread..i think we speculated and could not end up with a reason why it was like this


My experience was really different. Yale was the only one out of YHS that sent me unsolicited information about their school. It wasn't even the standard "CRS told us you're URM, so here is our bulletin" crap either. It had sample 250s and personal statements from minority 1Ls as well as tips for a successful application.

Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.


Yale sends out this packet all the time, actually. I think it's their minority organization's attempt to reach out to minorities, since Yale--for whatever reason--doesn't traditionally attract a large number of minority applicants or their matriculation (this latter claim is based on data I've seen in the past few years). Sharktankdean is probably correct in his/her/their prediction that--void of those minority groups--you wouldn't see too great of a recruiting initiative from their office.

Edited in order account for proper gender pronouns.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Rawlberto » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:25 pm

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Rawlberto

Assuming I don't get UT in state tuition I plan on moving to Austin and reapplying + a December retake. Shit cycle.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Alltheirsplendor » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:28 pm

Rawlberto wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Rawlberto

Assuming I don't get UT in state tuition I plan on moving to Austin and reapplying + a December retake. Shit cycle.


Just saw your LSN.... I'm sorry dude--that really sucks.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Rawlberto » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:42 pm

Alltheirsplendor wrote:
Rawlberto wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Rawlberto

Assuming I don't get UT in state tuition I plan on moving to Austin and reapplying + a December retake. Shit cycle.


Just saw your LSN.... I'm sorry dude--that really sucks.


Can't be too upset. If I was white I wouldn't have been in that situation. Plus, all my apps didn't go complete until January. Hopefully I get waitlisted by reaches and can kill it in December. Plus, a year of standard job + partying + living in Austin is not the worst thing in the world :)

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Geneva » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:15 pm

whenwin wrote:
1212 wrote:Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.

Maybe your early Stanford acceptance makes it slightly different?
I've been waiting for Yale, Harvard and Stanford for 5+ months. Sure Harvard was the only one to officially tell me I was being held, but I don't feel that Harvard holding my app for so long is any more ridiculous than the others.


The more I learn about Harvard, the more inclined I am to prefer SLS (though I am biased bc Stanford accepted me w/i weeks of being submitted for review and I'm still on hold at HLS). I applied to Yale bc I am attracted to the highly intellectual atmosphere and relative freedom. I could be wrong, but I feel like Harvard is more elitist than the rest of T3 even though it does accept a higher number of minorities. I got another hold email from Columbia today. I can't figure out the logic behind who CLS chooses to hold.
I feel like a wave of URM acceptances is in the near future. I imagine that LSN should be close to a large enough sample size to be representative?

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby vincanity1 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:35 pm

whenwin wrote:Btw congrats vincanity, amazing cycle.


Thanks, Buzz. Couldn't be happier about it. Good luck.

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby Dani.B » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:40 pm

I wish Harvard would hurry up and say something. I was in the first hold pile. I'm pretty sold on Stanford but keep thinking well what if I get a KB1? Would like to erase that thought and be able to move forward and pay Stanford my deposit

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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby sharktankdean » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:41 pm

Geneva wrote:
whenwin wrote:
1212 wrote:Idk about everyone else but Harvard's treatment of applicants this semester has really turned me off. To leave someone on hold for literally over 4 months is pretty ridiculous imo.

Maybe your early Stanford acceptance makes it slightly different?
I've been waiting for Yale, Harvard and Stanford for 5+ months. Sure Harvard was the only one to officially tell me I was being held, but I don't feel that Harvard holding my app for so long is any more ridiculous than the others.


The more I learn about Harvard, the more inclined I am to prefer SLS (though I am biased bc Stanford accepted me w/i weeks of being submitted for review and I'm still on hold at HLS). I applied to Yale bc I am attracted to the highly intellectual atmosphere and relative freedom. I could be wrong, but I feel like Harvard is more elitist than the rest of T3 even though it does accept a higher number of minorities. I got another hold email from Columbia today. I can't figure out the logic behind who CLS chooses to hold.
I feel like a wave of URM acceptances is in the near future. I imagine that LSN should be close to a large enough sample size to be representative?


ummmm lol...i don't know why but the highlighted part sounds funny to me.
congrats on Stanford by the way...but with a 3.7/170...im not really surprised.
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Re: 2011 - 2012 URM Application Cycle

Postby vincanity1 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:42 pm

Dani.B wrote:I wish Harvard would hurry up and say something. I was in the first hold pile. I'm pretty sold on Stanford but keep thinking well what if I get a KB1? Would like to erase that thought and be able to move forward and pay Stanford my deposit


You're not gonna take the AnBryce?




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