50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

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50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Notre Dame
14
16%
Michigan
76
84%
 
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KG89
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50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby KG89 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:40 pm

I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?

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lolschool2011
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby lolschool2011 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:49 pm

KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?


Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.

paulinaporizkova
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:51 pm

KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?


Michigan sends about 50% of their grads to biglaw right now and Notre Dame send much much less. I'd guess like 15%, though not sure if that's right. The answer is clear if you're shooting for biglaw.

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vanwinkle
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:55 pm

lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?

Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.

WTF?

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lolschool2011
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby lolschool2011 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:59 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?

Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.

WTF?



"The University of Notre Dame is an independent, national Catholic university located in Notre Dame, Ind."

CanadianWolf
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby CanadianWolf » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:19 pm

If you pay full sticker price at Michigan, then you will need biglaw; but if you attend Notre Dame with a 50% scholarship, then other career options become viable.

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Fresh
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby Fresh » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 pm

From my understanding, Notre Dame will most likely confine you to the midwest.

Also, the cultures of each school (other than college football) are very different

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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby thecilent » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:23 pm

lolschool2011 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?

Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.

WTF?



"The University of Notre Dame is an independent, national Catholic university located in Notre Dame, Ind."

...okay...

WTF?

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vanwinkle
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:39 pm

lolschool2011 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?

Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.

WTF?

"The University of Notre Dame is an independent, national Catholic university located in Notre Dame, Ind."

What's your point? It'd better be a good one to convince me you're not trolling.

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buckilaw
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby buckilaw » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:41 pm

If your goal is Biglaw go with Michigan, any T14 really, over ND.

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jcunni5
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby jcunni5 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:42 pm

ITE I think ND LR people were having trouble getting big law, Go to Michigan

KG89
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby KG89 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:44 pm

lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?


Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.


What does my question have to do with Anti-Catholicism???

However, I do think it might be more helpful for me to rephrase the question: Is my quality of life expected to be better coming out of Michigan $200,000 in debt with BigLaw, or would I be better off coming out of ND with half the debt but less employment opportunities? While the BigLaw salary is certainly enticing, how much is it really worth under and extra $100,000 in debt? How many years (with current interest rates in mind) do you guys think it would take for me to pay that off?

Appreciate the feedback!

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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby BlueDiamond » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:47 pm

i voted Michigan so that you can bow out via withdrawal at Notre Dame and I can get accepted in your absence.. better for your biglaw aspirations anyway! win-win? yes.

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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby Upton Sinclair » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:47 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:If you pay full sticker price at Michigan, then you will need biglaw; but if you attend Notre Dame with a 50% scholarship, then other career options become viable.


Careful, though. 50% scholly at ND will still cost OP ~$110k. (61k tuition + 51K other). Don't know if paying $60k less really opens up other options, particularly when the debt is six figures.

Sorry, UM is $7k more per year. My fault. Point stands though.
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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:47 pm

KG89 wrote:
lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?


Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.


What does my question have to do with Anti-Catholicism???

However, I do think it might be more helpful for me to rephrase the question: Is my quality of life expected to be better coming out of Michigan $200,000 in debt with BigLaw, or would I be better off coming out of ND with half the debt but less employment opportunities? While the BigLaw salary is certainly enticing, how much is it really worth under and extra $100,000 in debt? How many years (with current interest rates in mind) do you guys think it would take for me to pay that off?

Appreciate the feedback!


If you get BigLaw out of ND, the extra 100,000 for Michigan is not worth it. If you don't, it is.

to be more specific, no one can say because this has to do with chances - you can come out of ND with less debt, but if you don't get a job you want you'll probably wish you went to Michigan. no one knows how much the extra 100,000 is worth because you haven't even gone to LS yet, much less graduated

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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby stratocophic » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:58 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
KG89 wrote:
lolschool2011 wrote:
KG89 wrote:I'm shooting for big law. Impressed with Michigan's prestige but is it worth the debt?


Potentiallly egregious Anti-Catholicism trolling.


What does my question have to do with Anti-Catholicism???

However, I do think it might be more helpful for me to rephrase the question: Is my quality of life expected to be better coming out of Michigan $200,000 in debt with BigLaw, or would I be better off coming out of ND with half the debt but less employment opportunities? While the BigLaw salary is certainly enticing, how much is it really worth under and extra $100,000 in debt? How many years (with current interest rates in mind) do you guys think it would take for me to pay that off?

Appreciate the feedback!


If you get BigLaw out of ND, the extra 100,000 for Michigan is not worth it. If you don't, it is.

to be more specific, no one can say because this has to do with chances - you can come out of ND with less debt, but if you don't get a job you want you'll probably wish you went to Michigan. no one knows how much the extra 100,000 is worth because you haven't even gone to LS yet, much less graduated
Protip: this scenario slants heavily towards Michigan as a result of what you just said.

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Re: 50% at Notre Dame or Michigan at sticker?

Postby SupraVln180 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:17 pm

Fresh wrote:From my understanding, Notre Dame will most likely confine you to the midwest.

Also, the cultures of each school (other than college football) are very different



Both campuses also resemble Hogwartz, Michigan moreso though.




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