URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:38 pm

kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


Do you mean Malcolm X black or Waka Flocka Flame black?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LAWLAW09 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:41 pm

kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.



As a self-described "waitlist king," adcomms might be wondering the same thing about you.



miracle2011 wrote:I just found out that I have received a $105,000 Merit scholarship to Boston University!



Congrats!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:27 pm

miracle2011 wrote:I just found out that I have received a $105,000 Merit scholarship to Boston University!


Congrats!!!! :) Boston is awesome!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby rundoxierun » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:45 pm

kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


If u are implying the type of "blackness" I think you are then from the jealously in your post I'm sure you would think that you are "more black" than us.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby sophia.olive » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:52 pm

kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.

You just turned me into a democrat.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby ksimon2007 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:11 pm

sophia.olive wrote:
kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.

You just turned me into a democrat.


He isn't a Republican.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:15 pm

kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


You've already been given two warnings by a fellow mod. If you post anymore BS like this, expect another ban.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Rand M. » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:21 pm

RJ127 wrote:
kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


Do you mean Malcolm X black or Waka Flocka Flame black?


What a dichotomy. It's interesting to think of what those two could talk about over dinner.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:26 pm

Rand M. wrote:
RJ127 wrote:
kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


Do you mean Malcolm X black or Waka Flocka Flame black?


What a dichotomy. It's interesting to think of what those two could talk about over dinner.

I'm sure Malcolm would be doing all the talking. The question is Waka capable of comprehending?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby kk19131 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:28 pm

Hilarious.

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Postby kk19131 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:30 pm

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


You've already been given two warnings by a fellow mod. If you post anymore BS like this, expect another ban.



Don't threaten me with your internet-derived powertrip.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LAWLAW09 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:34 pm

kk19131 wrote:Hilarious.


Almost as funny as you assuming your GPA is the reason why you've been waitlisted all over the place. lol


kk19131 wrote:3.2 is higher than my LSAC gpa.


...and the reason why I'm the waitlist king, methinks.
:lol:

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby kk19131 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:48 pm

LAWLAW09 wrote:
kk19131 wrote:Hilarious.


Almost as funny as you assuming your GPA is the reason why you've been waitlisted all over the place. lol


kk19131 wrote:3.2 is higher than my LSAC gpa.


...and the reason why I'm the waitlist king, methinks.
:lol:



I'm pretty sure that's the reason.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:22 pm

kk19131 wrote:
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
kk19131 wrote:I wonder how "black" some of you men are.


You've already been given two warnings by a fellow mod. If you post anymore BS like this, expect another ban.



Don't threaten me with your internet-derived powertrip.


Oh honey, that wasn't a threat. Enjoy your week off <3

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LAWLAW09 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:19 pm

Gaia, noooooooooooo.


I was going to point out that applicants have already been accepted to schools he applied to with numbers lower than his and submission dates after his. Oh well. This process will humble 99.9% of us one way or another.

If anyone would like to add some insight/thoughts on the conversation tkgrrett and I were having a few posts back, that would be cool. If not, congrats again to the person that just got a full ride.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby miracle2011 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:21 pm

lol thanks LAWLAW09!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby elmagic » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:31 pm

I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.

I think the same can be said about Hispanics in law school. So, to other URMs does it bother you that your colleagues are not really representative of blacks/hispanics, and do you think law schools should put more effort into recruiting a better reflection of the cross section of underrepresented minorities?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:46 pm

elmagic wrote:I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.


If he would have said something like this, there would be no reason to ban him. Dude was given multiple warnings for trolling the URM forum and failed to change his behavior accordingly.

Feel free to discuss this broader point all you want, but when a poster has a piss poor track record he'll have to deal with the consequences.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby elmagic » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:58 pm

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
elmagic wrote:I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.


If he would have said something like this, there would be no reason to ban him. Dude was given multiple warnings for trolling the URM forum and failed to change his behavior accordingly.

Feel free to discuss this broader point all you want, but when a poster has a piss poor track record he'll have to deal with the consequences.


Oh hey, I am not questioning your decision at all. I just think there is an interesting topic to be discussed. I always felt I was a fortunate URM, and always wondered about the other side. The kids that grew up poor, and how they feel etc when they get to law school and realize they are a minority within a minority.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:04 pm

elmagic wrote:Oh hey, I am not questioning your decision at all. I just think there is an interesting topic to be discussed. I always felt I was a fortunate URM, and always wondered about the other side. The kids that grew up poor, and how they feel etc when they get to law school and realize they are a minority within a minority.


You're at Yale, right? Maybe your experience is similar to mine...most of the minorities at H are from Ivy undergrads and fortunate backgrounds. But when URM status is focused on race instead of socioeconomic status, the potential of feeling like you're the minority within a minority can't be helped.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Rand M. » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:07 pm

GAIA goes hard.

To LAWLAW's point earlier, while it is self-serving for me to think that there is an advantage in going to CCN over somewhere else, I could honestly see it going either way. I can say for certain that SEO gets easier if you pick CCN. I'm not sure how many other things are like that, and the fact that I can't come up with others makes your point seem more valid. I have no idea what the long term differences are like between the schools. Ok, I've added nothing to the conversation, but you have made me think. I'm not sure how one could really prove this either way.

To that other discussion. I'm a black male with two black-american parents. While I wish there were more black people taking advantage of all that education, that just isn't so, and it won't be so for the foreseeable future. Africans and people from the Caribbean work harder toward education. I don't know that schools should try to change that.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby rundoxierun » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:24 pm

elmagic wrote:I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.

I think the same can be said about Hispanics in law school. So, to other URMs does it bother you that your colleagues are not really representative of blacks/hispanics, and do you think law schools should put more effort into recruiting a better reflection of the cross section of underrepresented minorities?


I am one of the students who fit the stereotype of people AA(affirmative action) should be aimed at (very low-socioecon status, first gen college student, black parents, etc.) and I dont mind it one bit. In the end, AA is aimed at people with low socioecon status and, unfortunately, the vast majority of these people tend to be minorities of some sort. As it stands, the universities have decided that race is the best sorting mechanism(or that being a minority causes an inherent hit to socioecon status, not sure which). I could care less if these people are multi-racial or whatever and I actually strongly disagree with the idea that for some arbitrary reason we should have an African-American pool that reps the overall pool accurately. At the end of the day, people need to be expected to work for what they get. There has to be some baseline and apparently the overall pool of African-American applicants is not meeting that baseline to a degree that would allow an accurate reflection of African-Americans as a whole. The question we should be asking when admitting people with backgrounds of low socio-econ status should be "what would these people have accomplished before if they had equal resources" and then put them in the position to at have at least some of those resources going forward. In this way, I think AA should be more a method for social equalization of opportunity more-so than a sort of redistributive process.

Now if you want to argue that the majority of the minority community at top schools is not actually from backgrounds of low socio-econ status then that is more an issue of determining the most effective sorting mechanism.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby AztecaRex » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:14 pm

elmagic wrote:I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.

I think the same can be said about Hispanics in law school. So, to other URMs does it bother you that your colleagues are not really representative of blacks/hispanics, and do you think law schools should put more effort into recruiting a better reflection of the cross section of underrepresented minorities?


I actually am a multi-ethnic Latino myself, but I'd just like to say that the vast majority of Latinos are mestizos, i.e. of European and Ameridian descent. Also, in certain Latin countries (mainly South American like Argentina) the European heritage is strong enough that the majority of people may simply look European with little trace of indigenous features. And then of course there are places like Brazil that just mix African, European, and indigenous peoples (and IMO have the best looking women because of this :wink: ). My point is that--at least with regards to Latinos--the "representative" amount of sangre Latina is a bit hard to determine :)

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:22 pm

If the train falls off the track, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up.

Any URM acceptances as of late?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Fresh » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:36 pm

RJ127 wrote:If the train falls off the track, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up.

Any URM acceptances as of late?


i think it'll be quiet until after the New Year




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