URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby rundoxierun » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:53 pm

Wolverine Den wrote:Thanks to everyone on the congrats and congratulations to everyone who have been accepted thus far. Although Stanford loves high GPA's TK, I think you, Fresh and Crying Monkey definitely should be expecting a call from Dean Deal anytime in the near future. With respect to Admission Deans, it really doesn't get much better than Deal, she is as nice and warm as they come. TK, unlike you, I am an east coast guy and extremely fond of HLS and all it has to offer. Although I believe S is just as good, if not better that H, the only thing than can really sway me from Harvard is an acceptance from Yale (Which is really not gonna happen).TK, it does seem like if/when you do get into Stanford, you will be leaning in that direction. Is that assessment accurate? Oh and for the sake of posterity and TLS, please apply to Yale!!!


Im not sure which way Im leaning on the HLS v. SLS debate, not gonna think about it intensely until I have to. As far as Yale goes, the more I think about it, the less I think YLS is unquestionably better than HLS. People tend to make the argument of one vs. the other by making comparisons using percentages of each that get things like fed clerkships, academia, etc. I think, however, that the difference in class is so large that absolute numbers should be weighed in the debate as well because of the relative scarcity of these elite position. Looking at in that light really equalizes the schools on those terms. I.e. 30% getting fed. clerkships at Y=60 students 20% at H=110.

Basically, I dont really see myself choosing YLS over HLS even if I had the choice. Yeah I know the whole class size argument but I just dont put as much stock into it as everyone else.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby CG614 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:46 am

tkgrrett wrote:
Wolverine Den wrote:Thanks to everyone on the congrats and congratulations to everyone who have been accepted thus far. Although Stanford loves high GPA's TK, I think you, Fresh and Crying Monkey definitely should be expecting a call from Dean Deal anytime in the near future. With respect to Admission Deans, it really doesn't get much better than Deal, she is as nice and warm as they come. TK, unlike you, I am an east coast guy and extremely fond of HLS and all it has to offer. Although I believe S is just as good, if not better that H, the only thing than can really sway me from Harvard is an acceptance from Yale (Which is really not gonna happen).TK, it does seem like if/when you do get into Stanford, you will be leaning in that direction. Is that assessment accurate? Oh and for the sake of posterity and TLS, please apply to Yale!!!


Im not sure which way Im leaning on the HLS v. SLS debate, not gonna think about it intensely until I have to. As far as Yale goes, the more I think about it, the less I think YLS is unquestionably better than HLS. People tend to make the argument of one vs. the other by making comparisons using percentages of each that get things like fed clerkships, academia, etc. I think, however, that the difference in class is so large that absolute numbers should be weighed in the debate as well because of the relative scarcity of these elite position. Looking at in that light really equalizes the schools on those terms. I.e. 30% getting fed. clerkships at Y=60 students 20% at H=110.

Basically, I dont really see myself choosing YLS over HLS even if I had the choice. Yeah I know the whole class size argument but I just dont put as much stock into it as everyone else.


I go to CLS, and I can say that I enjoyed my small section much more than my larger classes and it was in the subject I had the least interest in. There is something to a small class size, you can be more involved in the class. That said, I also enjoyed my larger classes, but just felt more a part of the class in the small section. If you are the person that likes to talk, and let's face it, most of use are, then you will like the small class size better.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby rm61 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:46 pm

Is anyone else here in the HLS post-JR1 purgatory? It's driving me nuts...

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby almightypush » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:26 am

JR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first (and most likely biggest) acceptance of my cycle! SO EXCITED!!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Rand M. » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:36 am

almightypush wrote:JR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first (and most likely biggest) acceptance of my cycle! SO EXCITED!!


Congratulations!!!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LLB2JD » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:08 pm

almightypush wrote:JR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first (and most likely biggest) acceptance of my cycle! SO EXCITED!!


Congrats. You folks are really killing it.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby 20121109 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:25 pm

almightypush wrote:JR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first (and most likely biggest) acceptance of my cycle! SO EXCITED!!


Sexy acceptance.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby almightypush » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:37 pm

much appreciated, all. i got the call this morning while at work, and have been essentially useless to my company ever since. :D

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Flett » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:40 pm

In at Cornell! I should never had a shot with my numbers, kinda freaking out.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby High_Hopes » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:44 pm

almightypush wrote:JR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first (and most likely biggest) acceptance of my cycle! SO EXCITED!!


wow, congrats


what were your numbers?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Flustercluck » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:56 pm

Longtime lurker who finally has something to post!

AA/MA (Blaxican!) Accepted ED to Northwestern :)

Last year I was put on ten waitlists, everywhere from Notre Dame to McGeorge, and didn't get a single acceptance. This year I was freaking out all over again because my first and only previous response was a waitlist from W&L. Can't even describe how amazing this feels, I got the news on Thursday and still haven't come back down to Earth.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:06 pm

Flustercluck wrote:Longtime lurker who finally has something to post!

AA/MA (Blaxican!) Accepted ED to Northwestern :)

Last year I was put on ten waitlists, everywhere from Notre Dame to McGeorge, and didn't get a single acceptance. This year I was freaking out all over again because my first and only previous response was a waitlist from W&L. Can't even describe how amazing this feels, I got the news on Thursday and still haven't come back down to Earth.


Congrats! What do you think contributed to your cycle last time? Did you apply late or retake the LSAT or something?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Flustercluck » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:27 pm

RJ127 wrote:
Flustercluck wrote:Longtime lurker who finally has something to post!

AA/MA (Blaxican!) Accepted ED to Northwestern :)

Last year I was put on ten waitlists, everywhere from Notre Dame to McGeorge, and didn't get a single acceptance. This year I was freaking out all over again because my first and only previous response was a waitlist from W&L. Can't even describe how amazing this feels, I got the news on Thursday and still haven't come back down to Earth.


Congrats! What do you think contributed to your cycle last time? Did you apply late or retake the LSAT or something?


Last year I took December LSAT and got a 164, then took February for my 168, totally clueless as to how severely I might have affect my chances at admission by applying that late. I just decided to get on the ball extra early this cycle, went all in and jumped through every single hoop I could for Northwestern(Early Decision, interviewed on campus, did every single optional essay, etc)

*Law School Predictor can take their <5% chance and shove it :)

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ratchet Jackson » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:35 pm

Flustercluck wrote:
RJ127 wrote:
Flustercluck wrote:Longtime lurker who finally has something to post!

AA/MA (Blaxican!) Accepted ED to Northwestern :)

Last year I was put on ten waitlists, everywhere from Notre Dame to McGeorge, and didn't get a single acceptance. This year I was freaking out all over again because my first and only previous response was a waitlist from W&L. Can't even describe how amazing this feels, I got the news on Thursday and still haven't come back down to Earth.


Congrats! What do you think contributed to your cycle last time? Did you apply late or retake the LSAT or something?


Last year I took December LSAT and got a 164, then took February for my 168, totally clueless as to how severely I might have affect my chances at admission by applying that late. I just decided to get on the ball extra early this cycle, went all in and jumped through every single hoop I could for Northwestern(Early Decision, interviewed on campus, did every single optional essay, etc)

*Law School Predictor can take their <5% chance and shove it :)


LSP is a time waster for URMs, especially AAs. Glad you got into (what seems like) your #1 choice, my dude.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby jd20132013 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:54 pm

I was wondering if anyone submitted a diversity essay to HLS. They don't explicitly ask for one, but it seems that it might help.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Knock » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:55 pm

jd20132013 wrote:I was wondering if anyone submitted a diversity essay to HLS. They don't explicitly ask for one, but it seems that it might help.


I did, they definitely accept it. I'd definitely submit one if you don't touch on diversity-related issues in your PS. Just for full disclosure I am JR1-less.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby bk1 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:58 pm

jd20132013 wrote:I was wondering if anyone submitted a diversity essay to HLS. They don't explicitly ask for one, but it seems that it might help.


They do ask for one somewhere, saying something along the lines of "you may include additional information regarding diversity you would bring to the class" or something like that.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby jd20132013 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:59 pm

Thanks guys.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby bk1 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:00 pm

Found it! Last paragraph under "Personal Statement" section:

HLS App wrote:Additionally, the Committee makes every effort to understand your achievements in the context of your background and to build a diverse student
body. If applicable, you have the option, and are encouraged, to submit an additional statement to elaborate on how you could contribute to
the diversity of the Harvard Law School community.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 App lication Cycle

Postby jd20132013 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:13 pm

That's weird, that paragraph isn't on the HLS Application instructions on LSAC.

Ah well, thanks!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 App lication Cycle

Postby bk1 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:15 pm

jd20132013 wrote:That's weird, that paragraph isn't on the HLS Application instructions on LSAC.

Ah well, thanks!


It is in the application document itself. This is quite common with a whole host of schools that it will be missing from the instructions but if you read the apps themselves they will often give people the option to submit a DS.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby jd20132013 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:30 pm

oh I see it *facepalm* haha

Well, glad I checked here first.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby chaosnoodlesoup » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:30 pm

I haven't posted in awhile, thought I'd give my record so far:

Accepted: Michigan, Georgetown, Cornell.

Dingtown: Illinois, Texas, [almost certainly] NYU.

Waiting for Decision: Chicago, Minnesota, UVA, GW.

Numbers: 166, 3.6. Multiracial.

I have been bouncing off the walls for the last week and I damn near fainted when I pulled a huge Michigan envelope out of the mailbox! Unless Chicago sends her love, I'll probably be at Michigan in the Fall. Now I'm just waiting and hoping for at least a little scholarship money, but I won't push my luck! Ha!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby jd20132013 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:15 pm

Congrats

Were you surprised that a school like Illinois rejected you when you were clearly very competitive there? I mean even without any boost you're right at their medians...

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby almightypush » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:27 pm

jd20132013 wrote:I was wondering if anyone submitted a diversity essay to HLS. They don't explicitly ask for one, but it seems that it might help.


i, too, incorporated my diversity essay into my personal statement... but if you didn't, then i would strongly suggest you submit the additional essay. the fuller picture you can provide to the adcoms, the better.




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