URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

(BLS, URM status, non-traditional, GLBT)
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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Trustbuster » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:48 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Trustbuster wrote:We will triumph!

As will I. Soon as I get that blasted PS/DS out of the way. A curse upon this suburban, bland middle-class upbringing! A curse I say!


From my understanding, an URM doesn't necessarily have to come from an underprivileged to provide a compelling reason as to why their ethnicity provides the desired "diverse" mindset.


Oh I realize this. I was just referring to the difficulties of writing anything compelling due to that upbringing being so...ordinary. Not really a commentary on the underprivileged part, more on the bland part.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby mfeller2 » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:47 pm

Starting to work on the PS, feel like this is going to be a long, stressful, but promising cycle. Good luck to everybody! Hope you get into your top choice!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby JeanGrey » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:56 am

I'm new to it all but Hi!

I'm glad to be doing my cycle with you all... I am studying for the LSAT to take it in October and December if necessary.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Rand M. » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:05 pm

I don't know what the policy is on old-timers popping into you guys' thread (I would guess it's okay, since a lot of you contributed to our thread regularly), but I just wanted to say early that I am rooting for everyone. Hopefully this thread is as successful as the bunch from last year. I can't wait to read the stories of people racking up acceptances. Good luck!!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby DavidYurman85 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:57 pm

hi everyone. i pushed my test back until december. though, if my score is good enough, i'll likely apply this cycle. is anyone else still studying for the oct/dec test?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby CG614 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:02 pm

Good luck, all!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby billyez » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 pm

Good luck to all of you.


P.S. Stay away from LSP

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby dangerousminds » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:03 am

I'm excited about the whole upcoming process. I'm gearing up for the October LSAT. Good luck to everyone in their admissions cycle!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Warren Harding » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:15 am

nice to meet everyone.
i'll be around, i lurked a lot on last year's thread.
currently trying to come up with a PS idea, and studying away for October.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby TIMEATELL » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:54 am

Just checking in...I hope everyone has a great cycle.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby iamcutdacheck » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:19 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Bout time someone started this up.

iamcutdacheck wrote:Finishing up my Logic Games Bible, up next Logical Reasoning Bible, then 3 weeks of RC Bible


I bought the RC bible, but now I regret wasting the money on it. That section has always seemed pretty rudimentary to me--no offense to anyone else. I still have some serious weaknesses in LR that I need to work on though.


Are you saying it's more practical to just drill the LR Bible and LG Bible and do the old LSAT's rather than focus on the RC Bible?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LAWLAW09 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:48 pm

good luck!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Fresh » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:30 pm

Have you all been considering the recent study about grades versus prestige? Short version: grades are a lot more important than prestige, although the common "go to the best school you can get into" still prevails in applicants' minds.

Is this affecting where people are applying? Do you anticipate it affecting where you ultimately go? This has to be very important to us URMs since we get a boost in applications that disappears during law school...

Thoughts?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby LAWLAW09 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:56 pm

Fresh wrote:Have you all been considering the recent study about grades versus prestige? Short version: grades are a lot more important than prestige, although the common "go to the best school you can get into" still prevails in applicants' minds.

Is this affecting where people are applying? Do you anticipate it affecting where you ultimately go? This has to be very important to us URMs since we get a boost in applications that disappears during law school...

Thoughts?




"The work is part of a continuing effort to examine preferences and law school, specifically, whether affirmative action actually hurts those it’s most supposed to benefit. Sander [the report's author] has previously argued that minority law students will often do better academically (and on the bar) if they attend a less-competitive school."



As for your questions, my answer to both are, "nope." The article (and authors of the report) acknowledge that there is much speculation in their findings. As a URM that hopes to take the boost and run with it, I think the "boost" for us individually and collectively cannot be qualified by salary considerations alone, nor can it be limited to the three years that one is in law school.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby mpasi » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:17 pm

My LSAT prep resumes later this week. I'm a little scared, but anxious to get started.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby rundoxierun » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:33 pm

Fresh wrote:Have you all been considering the recent study about grades versus prestige? Short version: grades are a lot more important than prestige, although the common "go to the best school you can get into" still prevails in applicants' minds.

Is this affecting where people are applying? Do you anticipate it affecting where you ultimately go? This has to be very important to us URMs since we get a boost in applications that disappears during law school...

Thoughts?


This study is absolute crap..
Even if she had managed to get a spot at 7th ranked UC Berkeley, where the tier premiums are highest, her grades likely would have fallen into the 2.5‐2.75 range, and her salary would be 7% lower. On the other hand, if she had attended 80th ranked Rutgers, she probably could have improved her grades to land in the 3.5‐3.75 range, and earned a 13% higher salary.


No Way in the WORLD is a 2.5 berk student graduating at the top of ANY class. This stuff is nowhere near as linear as this professor makes it out to be.
That is, whether someone who finishes at the top of the class at, say, the University of Iowa, might face better career prospects than one who finishes in the middle of the class at, say, a place like Harvard.


No one really argues that graduating median at Harvard is better than graduating top 5% at Iowa.. but graduating below median at Harvard is def better than graduating below median at Iowa. In fact, graduating around the top 60-70% area at Harvard is better than graduating top 30-40% at Iowa. In conclusion, this study sucks..

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Sakura3210 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Another old-timer just popping in to say good luck to everybody! :D

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby mpasi » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:27 am

Any other December test takers?

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Fresh » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:23 am

mpasi wrote:Any other December test takers?


Aren't you worried about Dec. being a bit late in the app process to get a score in? Or do you already have a score

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby EbonyEsq » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:49 pm

Sh@keNb@ke wrote:Good luck to all of you. Fellow AA Male here but won't be applying until the 2011-2012 App cycle. Hope to see some great results!


Ditto to the above. AA female applying in 2011 with intent to sit the LSATs in June 2011. Will follow this admission cycle for inspiration.

Good luck to all my URM people! :mrgreen:

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Horchata » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:16 pm

Good luck everyone! Hope we all keep each other posted on our cycles.

Shout out to all the other Mexican Americans applying - there doesn't seem to be a whole bunch!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby iamcutdacheck » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:48 pm

Fresh wrote:Have you all been considering the recent study about grades versus prestige? Short version: grades are a lot more important than prestige, although the common "go to the best school you can get into" still prevails in applicants' minds.

Is this affecting where people are applying? Do you anticipate it affecting where you ultimately go? This has to be very important to us URMs since we get a boost in applications that disappears during law school...

Thoughts?


I loved this article, but a few quick things...

It's kinda dumb to assume that a few decades of Affirmative Action will outweigh the traditions of elite law schools.

Additionally, Sander and Yakowitz ain't talking money, and 'at the end of the day' (Morgan Freeman voice) that's what its all about, if you graduate from a most prestigious law school you going to have opportunities created by the associations that goes with attending such institutions.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby mpasi » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:55 pm

Fresh wrote:
mpasi wrote:Any other December test takers?


Aren't you worried about Dec. being a bit late in the app process to get a score in? Or do you already have a score


I'd be more worried about rushing it. December is fine...February is not.

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ill-literate » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:07 pm

I'm excited! I've been waiting to post something that would actually be meaningful instead of the occasional post just to say "I'm here too." I've been prepping with the LSAT bibles (though not extensively) this whole summer and I'm currently taking a Testmasters course. My top choices: Stan, UPenn, UVA, Vandy, UNC, BC, W&M, GW, but more than likely I'll blanket the top 14. I'm depending heavily on a decent LSAT.

Anyway, I look forward to reading all of the success stories that will emerge from this thread. I'm sure everyone's cycle will be outstanding. It's our year!

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Re: URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle

Postby Ben Reilly » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:18 pm

DavidYurman85 wrote:hi everyone. i pushed my test back until december. though, if my score is good enough, i'll likely apply this cycle. is anyone else still studying for the oct/dec test?


Yea, I'm still studying for October.




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