URM 2010-2011 Application Cycle Forum

[masterthearts]

I'm not trying to stick up for this guy, I don't even know the back story, but I think his comment brings up something that a lot of AA don't like to talk about when it comes to law school. There is a dearth of African-Americans at the top law schools, but it seems at least at my school and the other schools I have friends at most African-Americans are actually multi-racial. A lot of them are half white, or actually from Africa. A good friend of mine who is an associate now and grew up in Cabrini Green, always told me how he thinks it's disappointing that the classes of African-Americans at most top law schools don't represent the actual pool of African-Americans living in the US.

I think the same can be said about Hispanics in law school. So, to other URMs does it bother you that your colleagues are not really representative of blacks/hispanics, and do you think law schools should put more effort into recruiting a better reflection of the cross section of underrepresented minorities?

Agreed, Argentina (I assume you mean Buenos Aires) is full of people of European descent..mainly from Italy, Spain, Germany, even Wales. Also, many Jews in Argentina from Russia.

I actually am a multi-ethnic Latino myself, but I'd just like to say that the vast majority of Latinos are mestizos, i.e. of European and Ameridian descent. Also, in certain Latin countries (mainly South American like Argentina) the European heritage is strong enough that the majority of people may simply look European with little trace of indigenous features. And then of course there are places like Brazil that just mix African, European, and indigenous peoples (and IMO have the best looking women because of this ). My point is that--at least with regards to Latinos--the "representative" amount of sangre Latina is a bit hard to determine

[EbonyEsq]

So, to other URMs does it bother you that your colleagues are not really representative of blacks/hispanics, and do you think law schools should put more effort into recruiting a better reflection of the cross section of underrepresented minorities?

Depends on the law school. I observe there are more minorities within a minority in top law schools, not so much in the lower tiered.

I do believe more effort should be made to recruit a minority student body that better reflects a variety of SE backgrounds and ethnicities, however, that's to assume we have a large applicant pool of qualified minorities to begin with. And by qualified I mean the standard used by most top law schools to recruit the best: a top LSAT score. The black students on TLS scoring in the 90th percentile and above are not a good reflection of where most of us [black applicants] are scoring. Most black students may have the desire or good GPA to get into a T10 but not the LSAT score. It locks many of us out.

Not to mention that most black students getting into your top law schools are not poor AA students but rather the middle/upper middle class African Americans, Africans and Afro-Caribbean students.

All this to say that top law schools can only do so much in recruiting a larger cross section of URMs. The applicant pool doesn't allow for it.

[lisjjen]

And then of course there are places like Brazil that just mix African, European, and indigenous peoples (and IMO have the best looking women because of this ).

Sorry RJ, I'll pick the train up in a second, I just had to say yes and amen.

I'm in at UMich and Cornell, but that's super old news by now.

[LLB2JD]

And then of course there are places like Brazil that just mix African, European, and indigenous peoples (and IMO have the best looking women because of this ).

Sorry RJ, I'll pick the train up in a second, I just had to say yes and amen.

I'm in at UMich and Cornell, but that's super old news by now.

Congrats

[Byakuya769]

AA Male
LSDA GPA - 2.97 (3.23)
LSAT - 167
MS Fin - 3.79
Big 4 accountancy experience

I applied very early for all schools, generally completed by late september. Though a few were not complete until the end of November, but all were submitted by October. Here's my cycle so far:

Boston College - Accepted
Boston University - Pending
Columbia - Pending
Cornell - EA: Hold
Duke - Pending
Fordham - Accepted
Georgetown - Accepted
Harvard - Pending
Northwestern - Pending (black male initiative visitor..)
NYU - Early Decision: Hold
Penn - Wait-Listed
UC Berkeley - Pending
UC Hastings - Pending
UCLA - Pending
Virginia - Wait-Listed
William & Mary - Accepted w/ scholy

Let's see what the new year brings, or doesn't.
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[ksimon2007]

AA Male
LSDA GPA - 2.97 (3.23)
LSAT - 167
MS Fin - 3.79
Big 4 accountancy experience

I applied very early for all schools, generally completed by late september. Though a few were not complete until the end of November, but all were submitted by October. Here's my cycle so far:

Boston College Accepted
Boston University Pending
Columbia Pending
Cornell EA - Hold
Duke Pending
Fordham Accepted
GULC Accepted
Harvard Pending
Northwestern Pending (black male initiative visitor..)
NYU ED - Hold
Penn Wait-Listed
UC Hastings Pending
UCLA Pending
Virginia Wait-Listed
William & Mary Accepted w/ scholy

Let's see what the new year brings, or doesn't.
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Congrats! I'm hoping to hear some good news from G'Town in the next month.

[Byakuya769]

Congrats! I'm hoping to hear some good news from G'Town in the next month.

Thanks! Best of luck to you with GULC!

[20121109]

AA Male
LSDA GPA - 2.97 (3.23)
LSAT - 167
MS Fin - 3.79
Big 4 accountancy experience

I applied very early for all schools, generally completed by late september. Though a few were not complete until the end of November, but all were submitted by October. Here's my cycle so far:

Boston College - Accepted
Boston University - Pending
Columbia - Pending
Cornell - EA: Hold
Duke - Pending
Fordham - Accepted
Georgetown - Accepted
Harvard - Pending
Northwestern - Pending (black male initiative visitor..)
NYU - Early Decision: Hold
Penn - Wait-Listed
UC Berkeley - Pending
UC Hastings - Pending
UCLA - Pending
Virginia - Wait-Listed
William & Mary - Accepted w/ scholy

Let's see what the new year brings, or doesn't.
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Hey, you're back! My fellow Bleach fan !!!! I wish you all the best this cycle <3

[Byakuya769]

Hey, you're back! My fellow Bleach fan !!!! I wish you all the best this cycle <3

Thanks! I'm back with the same LSAT score as ever! That was a bitter surprise, but I figured applying early would help me out more than a slightly higher LSAT, being a splitter. Plus there was more risk than reward with retaking a third time. I feel alright now, just hoping I have some options come March.

How did your first semester at Harvard treat ya? Hope you're enjoying it, as much as an 1L can be expected to enjoy it, that is.

[Ratchet Jackson]

And then of course there are places like Brazil that just mix African, European, and indigenous peoples (and IMO have the best looking women because of this ).

Sorry RJ, I'll pick the train up in a second, I just had to say yes and amen.

I'm in at UMich and Cornell, but that's super old news by now.

All good homie, and congrats!

[Wolverine Den]

In at Berkeley and Georgetown!!!

[Knock]

In at Berkeley and Georgetown!!!

Congrats Wolverine. Are you leaning to a particular school yet?

[pennyloafer17]

In at Berkeley and Georgetown!!!

Congrats!

[ksimon2007]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

[Fresh]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

wooop! congratssss

[Ratchet Jackson]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

congrats! when did you submit? and what are your #s?

[timmna]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

Hey hey! Congratulations!

[kjadkins]

In at Mason, Dinged at UVA.

[s0ph1e2007]

In at Berkeley and Georgetown!!!

Congrats Wolverine. Are you leaning to a particular school yet?

wolverine den, your profile says you're in at stanford??

true?!!
congrats!!!

[20121109]

Hey, you're back! My fellow Bleach fan !!!! I wish you all the best this cycle <3

Thanks! I'm back with the same LSAT score as ever! That was a bitter surprise, but I figured applying early would help me out more than a slightly higher LSAT, being a splitter. Plus there was more risk than reward with retaking a third time. I feel alright now, just hoping I have some options come March.

How did your first semester at Harvard treat ya? Hope you're enjoying it, as much as an 1L can be expected to enjoy it, that is.

PMed

In at Berkeley and Georgetown!!!

In at Mason

Congrats, guys!!!!!

[ksimon2007]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

congrats! when did you submit? and what are your #s?

Thanks. Im traveling so my response is a little late. OOS RD 3.5/158

[rundoxierun]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

congrats! when did you submit? and what are your #s?

Thanks. Im traveling so my response is a little late. OOS RD 3.5/158

Congrats!! that is a really, really solid pull.

[ksimon2007]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

congrats! when did you submit? and what are your #s?

Thanks. Im traveling so my response is a little late. OOS RD 3.5/158

Congrats!! that is a really, really solid pull.

Thanks. I forgot to mention for RJ but submitted on 12/17

[Ratchet Jackson]

In at UVA today! Totally unexpected...I was waiting for a recommendation from an alum to get in, but they made the decision...

congrats! when did you submit? and what are your #s?

Thanks. Im traveling so my response is a little late. OOS RD 3.5/158

Super fast turn around with the 12/17 submission date. Nice!

[almightypush]

thus far, in at Harvard, NYU, and UVa (full ride).