International URM??

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Mrs. Stark
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International URM??

Postby Mrs. Stark » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:46 pm

I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.
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Re: International URM??

Postby doublefocus4 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:03 pm

Really interested to read what people have to say about this too.

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Re: International URM??

Postby LLB2JD » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:53 pm

I am in the same boat, and I'll be taking the LSAT in October and applying later this year.

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Re: International URM??

Postby hiromoto45 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:57 pm

Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.

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Re: International URM??

Postby Mrs. Stark » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:36 pm

You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.[/quote]
Thanks for the info :)

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Re: International URM??

Postby Mrs. Stark » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:39 pm

You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.[/quote]
Thanks for the info :)

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Re: International URM??

Postby creatinganalt » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:51 am

hiromoto45 wrote:
Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.


No

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Re: International URM??

Postby Mrs. Stark » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:56 am

creatinganalt wrote:
hiromoto45 wrote:
Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.


No


"No" meaning international students don't get URM status??

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Re: International URM??

Postby creatinganalt » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:00 am

Mrs. Stark wrote:
creatinganalt wrote:
hiromoto45 wrote:
Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.


No


"No" meaning international students don't get URM status??


No meaning they can.

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Re: International URM??

Postby Mrs. Stark » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:28 am

Thanks

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Re: International URM??

Postby hiromoto45 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:28 pm

creatinganalt wrote:
hiromoto45 wrote:
Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.


No


I'm not so sure...the point of URM status is to have URMs work in the US. So if the international cannot get working papers the boost is essentially wasted. FWIW an adcom told me a person had to be at least a permanent resident. But it may vary by the school. Don't put too much stake in "boosts" since they aren't clearly defined by any law school.

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Re: International URM??

Postby creatinganalt » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:07 am

hiromoto45 wrote:
creatinganalt wrote:
hiromoto45 wrote:
Mrs. Stark wrote:So i've been watching the forums for a while and this is my first post. I have just finished my first year of undergrad and I am not applying till the 2012 cycle. Just took my first diagnostic test and scored a 150 and i am hoping to study and bring that up to a 170+ ... I was wondering if an African studying in the UK counts as a URM or gets any kind of boost.


You have to be at least a permanent resident to be considered an URM. So you may not receive the typical "boost" a permanent resident or citizen may receive.


No


I'm not so sure...the point of URM status is to have URMs work in the US. So if the international cannot get working papers the boost is essentially wasted. FWIW an adcom told me a person had to be at least a permanent resident. But it may vary by the school. Don't put too much stake in "boosts" since they aren't clearly defined by any law school.


I'm half with this. I think the point of URM boosts is to get the school's diversity numbers up. But hiro is right in that law school isn't an 'international students' cash cow' like MPPs etc. Schools seem to want people who are going to practise law and be successful - not just pay. So I think you still have to be a compelling candidate and I can't imagine a school is going to give a full boost to a non US student if they can find a US one.

BUT some schools have vaguer diversity categories than others. Some schools have much more trouble attracting URMs full stop. I suspect international students' LSATs would matter more also because that is all that is reported. And I assume it would depend greatly on the URM type, student, school and state. Also, I bet this is only works for black people. Black/Af Am is a broad enough category to encompass any black person the world over. Also, they seem to be the toughest to recruit for most schools.




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