Haha +1. I need some of that diversity.Borhas wrote:dude, quit hogging all the fucking diversityDrake014 wrote:I'm african american, jewish, and native american.Joga Bonito wrote:
I get that and your right, that should be taken into account. Especially compared to old money waspy types. I also don't want to minimize the signifcant discrimination and injustices that many white immigrants faced. I just don't think it's near the kind of brutality and exploitation that non-whites, esp. blacks faced for hundreds of years.
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now everyone - let it die.
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PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, Africans didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
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That school shit is a joke
the same people who control the school system control the prison system
and the whole social system ever since slavery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY
(sorry I just like dead prez... white people love rappers nobody listens to)
the same people who control the school system control the prison system
and the whole social system ever since slavery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY
(sorry I just like dead prez... white people love rappers nobody listens to)
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rad law wrote:PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, African's didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
dammit
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Straight males already make up about 90% (at least) of the typical law firm practice.
At least 5/10 or 6/10 callbacks from a typical recruiter are at least straight white males, with maybe the final 2/10 or 3/10 being straight white females. This is obviously an estimate, but no one can argue the demographics of the typical law firm being overwhelming white with minority lawyers, asians and blacks and hispanics, hardly represented at associate level and almost never represented at partner level.
As for the diversity kid thing, the majority of lawyers are white straight males and so you will typically see straight white males in whatever law venture you should choose to participate. Most straight white male law students, believe it or not, are good people who come from relatively stable households, and are willing to mentor poorer kids.
I'm sure there are minorities that help, but evidently not everyone who was raised relatively poor wants to jump right back into that environment during law school. I was raised poor and I certainly won't be revving up to jump back into that arena. I'll help, but I want to experience the "high life" before I do.
At least 5/10 or 6/10 callbacks from a typical recruiter are at least straight white males, with maybe the final 2/10 or 3/10 being straight white females. This is obviously an estimate, but no one can argue the demographics of the typical law firm being overwhelming white with minority lawyers, asians and blacks and hispanics, hardly represented at associate level and almost never represented at partner level.
As for the diversity kid thing, the majority of lawyers are white straight males and so you will typically see straight white males in whatever law venture you should choose to participate. Most straight white male law students, believe it or not, are good people who come from relatively stable households, and are willing to mentor poorer kids.
I'm sure there are minorities that help, but evidently not everyone who was raised relatively poor wants to jump right back into that environment during law school. I was raised poor and I certainly won't be revving up to jump back into that arena. I'll help, but I want to experience the "high life" before I do.
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I haven't been following this conversation... What the hell has this got to do with anything? People kill people. They do it more efficiently when they have guns over spears. White people gave Africans guns and Europe, historically, created many of the modern day divisions in Africa that cause the great many conflicts there. I don't really care. I think that even if Europe hadn't caused them that they should aid the less fortunate because it breeds a better future for everyone (cliche but true). Same thing with the United States and South America. Whether we want to admit that we had something to do with problems there, its good to help people in a world with a global market place.dp73816 wrote:dammitrad law wrote:It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, African's didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
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But they did need Europeans to suffer from and spread life-threatening diseases amongst each other. I also believe that Europeans destroyed any semblance of familial relations and tribal unity when they captured Africans and sold them off as dehumanized goods (ie-slaves) in fulfilling their manifest destiny.rad law wrote:PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, African's didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
No matter how much you'd like to spin history, the fact remained that life was better for Africans before Europeans intruded and pillaged everything and anything of value in Africa.
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White people love rappers nobody listens too? White people make up the majority... this whole statement gives me a headache.Borhas wrote:That school shit is a joke
the same people who control the school system control the prison system
and the whole social system ever since slavery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY
(sorry I just like dead prez... white people love rappers nobody listens to)
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This is stupid and irrelevant. We aren't discussing history here.Jules Winnfield wrote:But they did need Europeans to suffer from and spread life-threatening diseases amongst each other. I also believe that Europeans destroyed any semblance of familial relations and tribal unity when they captured Africans and sold them off as dehumanized goods (ie-slaves) in fulfilling their manifest destiny.rad law wrote:PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, African's didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
No matter how much you'd like to spin history, the fact remained that life was better for Africans before Europeans intruded and pillaged everything and anything of value in Africa.
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At least you understand that the conspiracy was real. I am not saying the Africans were all noble...many were greedy. But the rest is also true. Europeans brought in the guns. And even though the Africans didn't need guns to have an excuse to kill each other, the guns were the instrament that allowed them to do it. Before the guns, they would undercut each other economically. After guns, they discovered what every man has known since, that guns were an expedient way to accomplish their goals. They had wars, but fewer people would have died had Europeans not gave them guns. And the tradeoff was terrible. Salt, gold and slaves were the most valuable commodities they had.rad law wrote:PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, Africans didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
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By the way, I don't appreciate the "savage" comment.
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Damn Edomites
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I always thought noble savages referred to Native Americans...PDaddy wrote:
By the way, I don't appreciate the "savage" comment.
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I hope you're directing this at rad law, as well and not just me. And I do have the right to be able to correct someone if that person is mislead or straight-up incorrect.Keile wrote:This is stupid and irrelevant. We aren't discussing history here.Jules Winnfield wrote:But they did need Europeans to suffer from and spread life-threatening diseases amongst each other. I also believe that Europeans destroyed any semblance of familial relations and tribal unity when they captured Africans and sold them off as dehumanized goods (ie-slaves) in fulfilling their manifest destiny.rad law wrote:PDaddy wrote: Not true. Whites made Jesus white b/c they wanted to propagate white superiority to Africans, and to slaves. The missionaries taught Christianity to Africans so they could rob the Africans of their material goods, namely the salt and gold that was abundant in Sub-Saharan Africa. They traded their guns for these goods and African slaves. While the slaves built the Colonies and the Carribean Islands, Continental Africans were at war with each other with the guns the Eurpopeans traded to them. Africa has been war-torn ever since. The image of a white Jesus helped that happen.
It is true the Christianity was a force to oppress Africans, but cut the noble savage shit, African's didn't need European guns to have an excuse to kill each other.
No matter how much you'd like to spin history, the fact remained that life was better for Africans before Europeans intruded and pillaged everything and anything of value in Africa.
What are you? A moderator in the making?
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Drake014 wrote:White people love rappers nobody listens too? White people make up the majority... this whole statement gives me a headache.Borhas wrote:That school shit is a joke
the same people who control the school system control the prison system
and the whole social system ever since slavery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY
(sorry I just like dead prez... white people love rappers nobody listens to)
combine these two ideas:
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Where the fuck do you come up with this deranged shit? Pull your head out of your ass and do some research.Keile wrote:Straight males already make up about 90% (at least) of the typical law firm practice.
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Lol @ this whole diatribe. So many assumptions. Sorry that it bothers me that I'll have to work with people of the same mind.
right back at ya
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Please dont have kids. Thanksdp73816 wrote:Lol @ this whole diatribe. So many assumptions. Sorry that it bothers me that I'll have to work with people of the same mind.
right back at ya
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Why not? Then you would have no one to lecture toNegrodamus wrote:Please dont have kids. Thanksdp73816 wrote:Lol @ this whole diatribe. So many assumptions. Sorry that it bothers me that I'll have to work with people of the same mind.
right back at ya
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I think he's talking about Big Law. 89% of lawyers and 90% of judges are white... Firms are probably worse in the white department but I'm not going to assume that white=white straight male.Oblomov wrote:Where the fuck do you come up with this deranged shit? Pull your head out of your ass and do some research.Keile wrote:Straight males already make up about 90% (at least) of the typical law firm practice.
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The European conquest of Africa was horrific. I know. The best UG paper I wrote was one on Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. Life was better for sure, it just seemed like the previous poster was painting an unnecessarily rosy picture of a happy Africa that was messed up by Europeans (correct me if I'm wrong), which is also a nice spin on history. I agree with your above statement, by the way.Jules Winnfield wrote: But they did need Europeans to suffer from and spread life-threatening diseases amongst each other. I also believe that Europeans destroyed any semblance of familial relations and tribal unity when they captured Africans and sold them off as dehumanized goods (ie-slaves) in fulfilling their manifest destiny.
No matter how much you'd like to spin history, the fact remained that life was better for Africans before Europeans intruded and pillaged everything and anything of value in Africa.
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Cool.rad law wrote:The European conquest of Africa was horrific. I know. The best UG paper I wrote was one on Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. Life was better for sure, it just seemed like the previous poster was painting an unnecessarily rosy picture of a happy Africa that was messed up by Europeans (correct me if I'm wrong), which is also a nice spin on history. I agree with your above statement, by the way.Jules Winnfield wrote: But they did need Europeans to suffer from and spread life-threatening diseases amongst each other. I also believe that Europeans destroyed any semblance of familial relations and tribal unity when they captured Africans and sold them off as dehumanized goods (ie-slaves) in fulfilling their manifest destiny.
No matter how much you'd like to spin history, the fact remained that life was better for Africans before Europeans intruded and pillaged everything and anything of value in Africa.
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They would definitely kill and enslave each other all the time in Africa before Europeans, and Europeans definitely encouraged and enlarged the slave trade. And guns definitely made Africans more efficient at killing each other. I basically agree with you.PDaddy wrote: At least you understand that the conspiracy was real. I am not saying the Africans were all noble...many were greedy. But the rest is also true. Europeans brought in the guns. And even though the Africans didn't need guns to have an excuse to kill each other, the guns were the instrament that allowed them to do it. Before the guns, they would undercut each other economically. After guns, they discovered what every man has known since, that guns were an expedient way to accomplish their goals. They had wars, but fewer people would have died had Europeans not gave them guns. And the tradeoff was terrible. Salt, gold and slaves were the most valuable commodities they had.
By the way, I don't appreciate the "savage" comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
Not a slight against Africa in any way, it's just a historical term (normally used to refer to Native Americans, yes).
But yeah, this discussion is off topic. Post away.
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So does white supremacy not exist anymore?
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Well, for once, being a gay white male has finally gotten me something besides awkward conversations revealing myself to co-workers and friends.