Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

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Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby mpasi » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:45 am

A quick caveat about this thread...if you're anti-affirmative action/anti-diversity, please don't post here. Spanx.



I know several black lawyers, and even more black law students. A lot of them attend or attended top schools for undergrad, and some are from privileged backgrounds. What gives? I know we make up 12% of the population, but, considering how many black people go to law schools are successful with it, why is there such a huge boost for them in admissions decisions?

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby chadwick218 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:47 am

This will go no where good and the answer is apparent. END OF THREAD!

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby scionb4 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:47 am

Affirmative action has a lot to do with fear of law suits and prosecution. I'm saying that's good, bad, or indifferent. I'm just stating a certainty.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby Joga Bonito » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:48 am

Why Why....Why have you done this.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby mpasi » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:48 am

It's not apparent to me, which is why I'm asking. :D If anyone wants to be a dick about the thread, it can be ignored.


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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby BruceBarr » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:49 am

I live in a $700,000 house. I'm from the second wealthiest city inside of the third wealthiest county in the U.S.

I'm rich. So are my neighbors.

How come the black kid up the street got into U of M for his undergrad with shit for grades? (this is before the No.2 vote in MI)

Because he's black.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby Joga Bonito » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:50 am

mpasi wrote:It's not apparent to me, which is why I'm asking. :D If anyone wants to be a dick about the thread, it can be ignored.


The dicks are coming but their not quite here yet, just you wait.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby 09042014 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:30 am

Nightrunner wrote:will end terribly, and probably quickly


What is having sex with Desert Fox, Alex?

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:31 am

BruceBarr wrote:I live in a $700,000 house. I'm from the second wealthiest city inside of the third wealthiest county in the U.S.

I'm rich. So are my neighbors.

How come the black kid up the street got into U of M for his undergrad with shit for grades? (this is before the No.2 vote in MI)

Because he's black.


Huh? I live in a $600,000 condo that I bought 5 years ago when the economy didn't blow - now it's worth $470ish. Hey everyone, lets brag about our real estate in this thread and then end with non sequitor transition into bigotry. You're strange Bruce, and don't make much sense.
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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby $1.99 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:31 am

lol nice one

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Postby Cupidity » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:32 am

Critical Mass

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby beef wellington » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:33 am

BruceBarr wrote:I live in a $700,000 house. I'm from the second wealthiest city inside of the third wealthiest county in the U.S.

I'm rich. So are my neighbors.

How come the black kid up the street got into U of M for his undergrad with shit for grades? (this is before the No.2 vote in MI)

Because he's black.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby scionb4 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:34 am

Joga Bonito wrote:Why Why....Why have you done this.


Why do you want to go to law school if you are afraid to talk about hot-button issues like affirmative action. If you become a lawyer, you will have to discuss uncomfortable subjects. This is good practice for you, because on an internet thread no one knows who you really are. If you can't discuss an issue like this one when no one can see your face, what're you going to do when a professor calls you out socratic style on an issue that you aren't comfortable discussing, or you get a case that is morally ambiguous? Just deal with it. The OP asked a valid question.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby ruleser » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:34 am

I can answer this very clearly. Spoke with a black attorney out here in LA the other day. They said point blank firms are desperate for diversity - because clients want it, and it is still very hard to come by.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby hiromoto45 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:35 am

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby jonas586 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:35 am

Joga Bonito wrote:The dicks are coming but their not quite here yet, just you wait.

This sounds like dialogue out of a bad porno/horror hybrid film.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby nycparalegal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:37 am

reasonabledoubt wrote:
BruceBarr wrote:I live in a $700,000 house. I'm from the second wealthiest city inside of the third wealthiest county in the U.S.

I'm rich. So are my neighbors.

How come the black kid up the street got into U of M for his undergrad with shit for grades? (this is before the No.2 vote in MI)

Because he's black.


Huh? I live in a $600,000 condo that I bought 5 years ago when the economy didn't blow - now it's worth $470ish. Hey everyone, lets brag about our real estate in this thread and then end with non sequitor transition into bigotry. You're strange Bruce, and don't make much sense.



Geez how underwater are you with your mortgage?

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby DoctorNick189 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:37 am

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby scionb4 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:38 am

jonas586 wrote:
Joga Bonito wrote:The dicks are coming but their not quite here yet, just you wait.

This sounds like dialogue out of a bad porno/horror hybrid film.


RUN AWAY!!!! THE DICKS ARE CUMMING!!!!!

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby ilovethelsat » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:41 am

There are several factors that determine the boost a URM receives. I'll list them below:

1. The number of students from a given ethnicity that attain a certain LSAT score.

2. The number of spots a law school wants to fill with a students from a certain URM.

3. The general manner in which a URM group is treated in law school admissions.

Let's say you are the dean of Yale Law School. You know that almost everyone you accept will attend. Suppose you decide to admit 30 black students. But you run into a problem: you cannot find 30 qualified black students. In fact, you can only find 7 black students with LSAT scores over 170. Since racial diversity is more important than fairness, you decide to give them a boost, and in this case, a 6 point average LSAT boost is needed to admit 30 blacks.

Now let's say you are the dean of Georgetown Law School, and you know that most students you admit will not attend. So if you want to admit 30 qualified black students, you will be competing with all of the other T14's! Thus, you will have to admit black students in the low 160's, thereby granting these black applicants an even larger boost.

Blacks receive such a large boost in law school admissions because (1) there aren't a lot of high-scoring blacks and (2) law schools reserve large numbers of spots for blacks, creating a domino effect in which lower ranked schools have to give even larger boosts to enroll a critical mass of black students.

On the other hand, law schools don't seem to reserve many spots in their freshman classes for Hispanics. If they did, the Hispanic LSAT boost would be almost as large as the black LSAT boost.
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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby scionb4 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:42 am

scionb4 wrote:
jonas586 wrote:
Joga Bonito wrote:The dicks are coming but their not quite here yet, just you wait.

This sounds like dialogue out of a bad porno/horror hybrid film.


RUN AWAY!!!! THE DICKS ARE CUMMING!!!!!

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THEY'VE ORGANIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:43 am

nycparalegal wrote:
reasonabledoubt wrote:
BruceBarr wrote:I live in a $700,000 house. I'm from the second wealthiest city inside of the third wealthiest county in the U.S.

I'm rich. So are my neighbors.

How come the black kid up the street got into U of M for his undergrad with shit for grades? (this is before the No.2 vote in MI)

Because he's black.


Huh? I live in a $600,000 condo that I bought 5 years ago when the economy didn't blow - now it's worth $470ish. Hey everyone, lets brag about our real estate in this thread and then end with non sequitor transition into bigotry. You're strange Bruce, and don't make much sense.



Geez how underwater are you with your mortgage?



I put money down... but don't have much equity left after the enormous depreciation. Oh well.... anyways, back to the topic.

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby Rowinguy2009 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:45 am

Last first page spot

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Re: Why Do Black Applicants Have Such A Huge Boost?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:45 am

First 2nd page spot. Enjoy my abs, they're not controversial, but they are a situation.




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