Hispanics vs african americans URM

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mrm2083
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Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby mrm2083 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:33 pm

I realize that the only Hispanics who get a boost are Mexicans and Puerto Ricans but aren't Hispanics as a whole underrepresented in top law schools compared to African Americans. For example Harvard has 11.8% African Americans and 7.3% Hispanics while the population of the US consists of 12.4% African Americans and 15% Hispanics if the point of URM is because they are underrepresented then shouldn't Hispanics (whatever the origin), at least at Harvard, get more of a boost than African Americans? *Statistics at other top law schools also seem to hover around these numbers.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby scionb4 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:43 pm

When I saw in the subject, "Hispanics vs. African Americans" I thought this had the potential to be a very discussion.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby Flanker1067 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:50 pm

But then you realized this question is stupid.

OP, by grouping all hispanics together you are saying that in essence, all hispanics should get URM because Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are severely under-represented. You can't just substitute one hispanic for another.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby holydonkey » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:51 pm

URM status is not determined by stats at a single school. It's across the board at many different law schools.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby Rand M. » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:57 pm

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby Flanker1067 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:00 pm

That is hilarious. Well -done.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby 02082010 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:02 pm

Ran here.



But it's boring so I'm headed back to the lounge.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby Billy Blanks » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:05 pm

mrm2083 wrote:I realize that the only Hispanics who get a boost are Mexicans and Puerto Ricans but aren't Hispanics as a whole underrepresented in top law schools compared to African Americans. For example Harvard has 11.8% African Americans and 7.3% Hispanics while the population of the US consists of 12.4% African Americans and 15% Hispanics if the point of URM is because they are underrepresented then shouldn't Hispanics (whatever the origin), at least at Harvard, get more of a boost than African Americans? *Statistics at other top law schools also seem to hover around these numbers.


It depends on the focus of increased representation. If you simply say, "this is the rate of Hispanics in the population vs the rate of Hispanics in law school," then your assertion would be correct. However, I think law schools are sensitive to the designations made in the US Census since this where all "representation" claims originate. The Census now accounts for Hispanics of different national origin. Therefore, law schools look at Hispanic with a finer level detail than they otherwise would and determine which sub-groups really are underrepresented and which are not. Knowing this information, it would make no sense to give "all Hispanics" the same URM consideration.

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby mrm2083 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:20 pm

Thread fail.... I admit it :(

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Re: Hispanics vs african americans URM

Postby Flanker1067 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:29 pm

mrm2083 wrote:Thread fail.... I admit it :(



No big deal. People on TLS are harsh, including me. We have all been on both ends though.




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