1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

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1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby popopcorn » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:33 pm

I understand that the career prospect at these schools might be very similar if you are their top students.

but how about internships opportunities for 1L and 2L? Being in NYC seems to have a significant advantage. But do firms do internship recruiting at DMV frequently?

I go to a top-tier liberal arts college yet just because we are located in an isolated town, firms don't usually come here for recruiting unless we have alumni connections with them. I'm hearing my IB/finance-aspiring friends complaining everyday about how career networks here not comparable to Columbia, and might even be worse than schools like BU... Apparently I do not want the same thing happen to me a few years later!

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby popopcorn » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:04 am

bump!!

anyone worrying about the same issue??

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby M51 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:26 am

1. DMV? What's that? It's MVP. D's usually in the sub-tier below MVP.

2. They're not called internships. They're called summer associates.

3. Yes. They are better at CCN if you're talking about biglaw. No, they are not better for biglaw if you are actually at the "very top", because the "very top" is good enough to get you the foot in the door anywhere during OCI, even if you're in G (the rest will all be how well you interview, whether they like you, etc).

4. Don't even consider that you will be a "top student" anywhere. Incredibly smart people suck at law school. Some relatively stupid people do really well. Same w/ effort. Everyone/anyone who's been to a T14 law school will tell you that 1L grades (and pretty much all grades) are incredibly random (hint: you are not tested on knowledge of anything). It is much more useful to focus on how median does, then give slight consideration to how the "very top" does.

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby AtticusFinch » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:11 am

M51 wrote:1. DMV? What's that? It's MVP. D's usually in the sub-tier below MVP.

2. They're not called internships. They're called summer associates.

3. Yes. They are better at CCN if you're talking about biglaw. No, they are not better for biglaw if you are actually at the "very top", because the "very top" is good enough to get you the foot in the door anywhere during OCI, even if you're in G (the rest will all be how well you interview, whether they like you, etc).

4. Don't even consider that you will be a "top student" anywhere. Incredibly smart people suck at law school. Some relatively stupid people do really well. Same w/ effort. Everyone/anyone who's been to a T14 law school will tell you that 1L grades (and pretty much all grades) are incredibly random (hint: you are not tested on knowledge of anything). It is much more useful to focus on how median does, then give slight consideration to how the "very top" does.


So you go to school at the DMV is that why the lines are so long lately?

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby of Benito Cereno » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:39 am

do CCN students get federal judicial, DOJ, and major NGO 1L internships commonly, or are these reserved for HYS students?

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby boardercms » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:51 am

According to popular lingo where I'm From (DC).... DMV = DC / MD / VA

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby imchuckbass58 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:59 am

of Benito Cereno wrote:do CCN students get federal judicial, DOJ, and major NGO 1L internships commonly, or are these reserved for HYS students?


Yes, pretty commonly.

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby underachiever » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:17 am

Even at P (the school you left out that is higher in the rankings then D, M, or V...im just kidding) people get those things over there 1L summer, I know a handful who had fed court jobs before finals started even...Lots of DOJ interviews in NYC, philly, & DC for my friends (most want grades before hiring)...I have not been so lucky

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby kumba84 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:52 am

Michigan has a really nice list of all their 1L and 2L's summer jobs: --LinkRemoved--.

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby agentzer0 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:12 am

M51 wrote:1. DMV? What's that? It's MVP. D's usually in the sub-tier below MVP.

2. They're not called internships. They're called summer associates.

3. Yes. They are better at CCN if you're talking about biglaw. No, they are not better for biglaw if you are actually at the "very top", because the "very top" is good enough to get you the foot in the door anywhere during OCI, even if you're in G (the rest will all be how well you interview, whether they like you, etc).

4. Don't even consider that you will be a "top student" anywhere. Incredibly smart people suck at law school. Some relatively stupid people do really well. Same w/ effort. Everyone/anyone who's been to a T14 law school will tell you that 1L grades (and pretty much all grades) are incredibly random (hint: you are not tested on knowledge of anything). It is much more useful to focus on how median does, then give slight consideration to how the "very top" does.


Agreed; always assume median. So my question is: how do median students at CCN fare compared to median students at MVP when its comes to say BigLaw SA positions?

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby of Benito Cereno » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:47 pm

imchuckbass58 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:do CCN students get federal judicial, DOJ, and major NGO 1L internships commonly, or are these reserved for HYS students?


Yes, pretty commonly.

1L summer? Anyone at CCN available to give some insight into the sort of 1L opportunities? Do these tend to mostly go to students with significant previous work experience.

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby imchuckbass58 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:04 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:
imchuckbass58 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:do CCN students get federal judicial, DOJ, and major NGO 1L internships commonly, or are these reserved for HYS students?


Yes, pretty commonly.

1L summer? Anyone at CCN available to give some insight into the sort of 1L opportunities? Do these tend to mostly go to students with significant previous work experience.


PMed

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby of Benito Cereno » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:44 pm

imchuckbass58 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:
imchuckbass58 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:do CCN students get federal judicial, DOJ, and major NGO 1L internships commonly, or are these reserved for HYS students?


Yes, pretty commonly.

1L summer? Anyone at CCN available to give some insight into the sort of 1L opportunities? Do these tend to mostly go to students with significant previous work experience.


PMed

received and encouraged. thanks

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby Tofu » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:27 pm

could i get a PM, too?

i'm headed to ccn, so i'm also curious about this

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby prefontaine » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:35 pm

headed to CCN, would like a PM too.

thanks

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby freeflowfox » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:11 pm

CCN as well, PM? Thanks!

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby TheWire » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:22 pm

freeflowfox wrote:CCN as well, PM? Thanks!


+1 if possible...it would be greatly appreciated

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby Doritos » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:46 pm

freeflowfox wrote:CCN as well, PM? Thanks!


+1. Going to UVA but I dont like to be left out of things

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby RCTP » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:54 pm

could I get a PM too? thanks in advance

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby imchuckbass58 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:00 pm

Ok I think I PMed everyone. If you got a blank PM I screwed up - just let me know.

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby jerjon2 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:08 pm

imchuckbass58 wrote:Ok I think I PMed everyone. If you got a blank PM I screwed up - just let me know.


I'm headed to one of CCN too, can I get that PM?

Edit: Thanks in advance
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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby facetious » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:12 pm

jerjon2 wrote:
imchuckbass58 wrote:Ok I think I PMed everyone. If you got a blank PM I screwed up - just let me know.


I'm headed to one of CCN too, can I get that PM?


ok, now i feel left out and the gunner in me wants to know! going to CCN, so can i have one too? much appreciated!

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby hopefullaw27 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:49 pm

samesies!

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby pu_golf88 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:16 pm

I think it's safe to say this defeated the purpose of a PM

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Re: 1L/2L internship opportunities at CCN compared to DMV?

Postby agentzer0 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:44 pm

one more I'm going to ccn can i get a pm too?

Thanks




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