reasonable_man wrote:Philo38 wrote:Mr. Matlock wrote:Philo38 wrote:I didn't mean to imply that Belmont grads will be equal to Vandy grads. The point is there are a lot of Jobs around Nashville that Vandy grads are not taking. I work in law firms in Nashville, over half of the attorneys who practice in this state are from school outside of this state. There are just as many Ole miss, Alabama, and Cumberland law grads working in law firms in Nashville as Vandy.
If you have a list of jobs in Nashville that Vandy students turned down this year, please share them with the class. Other wise you'd better grab one of Ronald's tits quick before all the milk is gone.
I really don't understand your anger here, and I believe it is misplaced.
I keep hearing arguments to the tune of, "the last thing we need is more lawyers!" Are you operating under the assumption that law schools build JD students out of raw material like GM builds cars? Law schools provide a service, they can only exist as far as people demand that service.
There are not more JDs because there are more and more law schools, there are more and more law schools because there are more people who want JDs.
If Belmont thinks that there is a pool of potential law students that desire a JD that will be interested in them, than they will succeed. If not, they will buckle. It isn't as if there will be a very large percentage of people who never considered law school and as soon as Belmont opens its doors will go . . . "hey, I want a $30,000 a year legal education don't I?"
Furthermore, over 50% of the legal jobs in Nashville are filled with candidates from schools outside the state.
We haven't opened up a law school in over A CENTURY. It isn't as if Tennessee just can't open up law schools fast enough. We have ONE real law school in Nashville and that is one only open to candidates in the top 10% really, Belmont will provide an option for people who want to study law in Nashville and can't afford Vanderbilt.
Also, it certainly is not fair to focus only on last year as an argument for what the market does and does not need in general, Belmont started planning this school 5 years ago, and won't open it until 2012. As I said, a law school is not a temporary thing. What Belmont saw is a significant lack of Tennessee educated lawyers in Nashville, as well as low numbers of lawyers as an average percentage of the population in Tennessee, and determined there was a void that they can fill. Not over the last three years, but hiring over a significant period of time.
Belmont isn't creating more students, it is providing potential students with another option. And in Nashville, the options are VERY slim.
You're an idiot. Its just that simple.
Its not the demand of people that want a JD that matters; its the demand for legal services from attorneys that matter. Who cares how many fucking idiots want a jd, if there are already too many out there for the amount of jobs available? Get a clue brah; we already have too many lawyers. Just because this school will find 150+ morons to sign up year after year, it does not mean that the institution is being responsible by flooding more lawyers into an already saturated market.
I really think you are only seeing a small portion of the picture.
All that a law school is concerned with is that people want to pay for thier degree. Sure, they are concerned with the legal market because the quality and quantity of legal jobs is a partial determining factor of the value of that degree. The other factor that determines the value of thier JD is the demand for a JD; meaning, the number of students willing to pay for a JD and how much they are willing to pay for it.
The problem is not the amount of JD granting institutions, it is that the amount of people kicking each other to overpay for a JD CURRENTLY outweighs the number of jobs. You see? Supply AND demand.
Don't get me wrong I understand your frustration, and I think it is justified, I just think it is misplaced.