BU law vs. BC law???

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby 20160810 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:45 pm

I would venture that when people hate on ND's football team, it's because they're pretty awful, not really because of the whole Catholocism thing. But hey, I could be wrong.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby gobucks101 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:48 pm

My hatred stems mostly from Charlie Weis. Unless he upsets USC and gives birth to the second coming of Jesus on the 50 yard line, it looks like that won't be a factor next year.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby muddywaters » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:36 pm

edgarderby wrote:
muddywaters wrote:Edgar is just trying to get ND love from EVERYONE. Trying to push them up the rankings by getting (over) qualified people to apply there. not gonna happen.


Stop being bitter just because God doesn't want you to get married.


haha. glad to see law school has REALLY opened your eyes.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby muddywaters » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:37 pm

edgarderby wrote:
muddywaters wrote:Edgar is just trying to get ND love from EVERYONE. Trying to push them up the rankings by getting (over) qualified people to apply there. not gonna happen.


Stop being bitter just because God doesn't want you to get married.


oh, and im already married, shmuck. maybe your sculpted eyebrows and lipstick are making you delirious.

stop being bitter just because you still have wet dreams about cornell everynight.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby ace0260 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:18 pm

BC is known to place better in New England

BU is known to place better in NY, CA, etc

I suppose this means that at the top end BU can open more national doors. Of course, BC may offer more regional doors to those on the lower end. Not sure if one is better than the other for these reasons.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby the fledgling » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:21 pm

Diana341 wrote:
kiwislug wrote:
-I realize that law school is going to be competitive and difficult no matter where I go but a school that has a reputation for being friendly and having a good student/faculty community is very important to me, BC wins that one hands down [the whole "disneyland of law schools" thing].

-The campus is in Boston but not right in the middle of the city, I happen to like this idea. The campus is also beautiful while BU's law building is anything but.

-BC places very well in Boston [which is where I want to work]. BC places better than BU in Boston actually


Actually, BC is in Newton, not in Boston. Both alumni networks are strong, but BC might edge out BU in this area. The schools both offer comparable employment opportunities in Boston/New England.

OP: if you have an idea of what type of law you want to go into, do some research about both schools. You really have to just visit both schools to see which one you prefer... BC is a prettier law school in a campus environment just outside of Boston; BU is one nasty looking building on the Charles river, but it is smack in the middle of Boston, which is a plus if you want to live in the city.


That's right, BC's law campus is not on the main campus in Chestnut Hill but in Newton. There's a bus that runs between 6:30 and 2 am (if my memory serves me correctly) between the campuses and the BC T-stop. Otherwise it's about a 10-15 minute walk, which isn't bad but not fun in the winter. About 1/4 of BC's undergrad freshman live on the Newton law campus (as I did when I attended undergrad there) so be prepared to be surrounded by 18-19 year olds often, especially during lunch and late night as the freshman cafeteria is in the main law building. All that aside, BC is a terrific school and though I wouldn't go to the law school for personal reasons (namely I don't want to move back to Boston), if you want to stay in Boston and/or if you are interested in human rights issues, social justice, and the like BC would be the right choice over BU. BC's Jesuit Catholic values are not overbearing but certainly are noticeable if you know where to look (i.e., if you think corporate america does no wrong BC is not the place for you).

BU's also a great school and though the law building is awful (though prettier and more up to date inside), it's downtown location is considerably better than BC's suburban setting, assuming you prefer city night life to Mary Ann's and Columbus Circle. On the professional front I've heard that BU has better placement in big law, though by how much I'm not sure.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby ls10 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:58 pm

Here are some numbers that suggest BU is the better school for placement in the Vault top-40. These numbers are based on what each law firm posted on their websites as the number of attorneys from each school firm wide. Some did not have a search by law school function.

Law Firm / BU Law Alumni/ BC Law Alumni
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, Katz / 1 / 0
Cravath, Swaine & Moore / 4 / 1
Sullivan & Cromwell / 9 / 5
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom N/A N/A
Davis, Polk & Wardwell / 3 / 1
Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett / 4 / 2
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton / 12 / 3
Weil, Gotshal & Manges / 26 / 15
Kirkland & Ellis / 24 / 7
Covington & Burling / 14 / 3
Debevoise & Plimpton / 3 / 1
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison / 12 / 9
Williams & Connolly / 0 / 1
Sidley Austin / 27 / 16
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher / 6 / 6
WilmerHale / 64 / 56
White & Case / 17 / 5
Shearman & Sterling N/A N/A
Arnold & Porter / 6 / 3
O’Melveny & [deleted] / 10 / 2
Clifford Chance N/A N/A
Jones Day / 24 / 6
Morrison & Foerster / 8 / 2
Hogan & Hartson / 14 / 9
Linklaters N/A N/A
Milkbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy / 7 / 6
Ropes & Gray / 77 / 76
Mayer Brown / 11 / 8
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker / 14 / 11
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson / 11 / 4
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer / 5 / 2
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer Feld / 8 / 1
Winston Stawn / 12 / 2
Quinn Emanuel Urguhart Oliver & Hedges N/A N/A
Willkie Farr & Gallagher / 5 / 3
Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe / 9 / 11
Allen & Overy N/A N/A
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft / 19 / 8
Proskauer Rose / 23 / 21
Baker Botts / 4 / 2

Total: 493 BU Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms, 308 BC Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms
Last edited by ls10 on Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby Skadden Stairs » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:05 pm

Wow, that's actually a really helpful and informative first post. Who knew post #1 didn't have to be "What are my Chances?"



(I would be so good to you, Debevoise...)

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby muddywaters » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:44 pm

lex,

working in biglaw goes against the whole goal of sitting at home all day looking pretty.

i am disappointed.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby Skadden Stairs » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:47 pm

muddywaters wrote:lex,

working in biglaw goes against the whole goal of sitting at home all day looking pretty.

i am disappointed.


But I have to find my husband somewhere, or else the sitting won't be an option :(
It would only be for a summer or two...

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby boston101 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:34 pm

BC. Almost went there. LOVE THAT SCHOOL.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby pollaclc » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:07 am

ls10 wrote:Here are some numbers that suggest BU is the better school for placement in the Vault top-40. These numbers are based on what each law firm posted on their websites as the number of attorneys from each school firm wide. Some did not have a search by law school function.

Law Firm / BU Law Alumni/ BC Law Alumni
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, Katz / 1 / 0
Cravath, Swaine & Moore / 4 / 1
Sullivan & Cromwell / 9 / 5
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom N/A N/A
Davis, Polk & Wardwell / 3 / 1
Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett / 4 / 2
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton / 12 / 3
Weil, Gotshal & Manges / 26 / 15
Kirkland & Ellis / 24 / 7
Covington & Burling / 14 / 3
Debevoise & Plimpton / 3 / 1
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison / 12 / 9
Williams & Connolly / 0 / 1
Sidley Austin / 27 / 16
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher / 6 / 6
WilmerHale / 64 / 56
White & Case / 17 / 5
Shearman & Sterling N/A N/A
Arnold & Porter / 6 / 3
O’Melveny & [deleted] / 10 / 2
Clifford Chance N/A N/A
Jones Day / 24 / 6
Morrison & Foerster / 8 / 2
Hogan & Hartson / 14 / 9
Linklaters N/A N/A
Milkbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy / 7 / 6
Ropes & Gray / 77 / 76
Mayer Brown / 11 / 8
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker / 14 / 11
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson / 11 / 4
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer / 5 / 2
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer Feld / 8 / 1
Winston Stawn / 12 / 2
Quinn Emanuel Urguhart Oliver & Hedges N/A N/A
Willkie Farr & Gallagher / 5 / 3
Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe / 9 / 11
Allen & Overy N/A N/A
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft / 19 / 8
Proskauer Rose / 23 / 21
Baker Botts / 4 / 2

Total: 493 BU Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms, 308 BC Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms


too lazy to see what enrollment is at both, but anyone know what % of graduates these numbers represent?

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby im_blue » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:37 am

pollaclc wrote:
ls10 wrote:Here are some numbers that suggest BU is the better school for placement in the Vault top-40. These numbers are based on what each law firm posted on their websites as the number of attorneys from each school firm wide. Some did not have a search by law school function.

Law Firm / BU Law Alumni/ BC Law Alumni
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen, Katz / 1 / 0
Cravath, Swaine & Moore / 4 / 1
Sullivan & Cromwell / 9 / 5
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom N/A N/A
Davis, Polk & Wardwell / 3 / 1
Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett / 4 / 2
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton / 12 / 3
Weil, Gotshal & Manges / 26 / 15
Kirkland & Ellis / 24 / 7
Covington & Burling / 14 / 3
Debevoise & Plimpton / 3 / 1
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison / 12 / 9
Williams & Connolly / 0 / 1
Sidley Austin / 27 / 16
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher / 6 / 6
WilmerHale / 64 / 56
White & Case / 17 / 5
Shearman & Sterling N/A N/A
Arnold & Porter / 6 / 3
O’Melveny & [deleted] / 10 / 2
Clifford Chance N/A N/A
Jones Day / 24 / 6
Morrison & Foerster / 8 / 2
Hogan & Hartson / 14 / 9
Linklaters N/A N/A
Milkbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy / 7 / 6
Ropes & Gray / 77 / 76
Mayer Brown / 11 / 8
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker / 14 / 11
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson / 11 / 4
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer / 5 / 2
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer Feld / 8 / 1
Winston Stawn / 12 / 2
Quinn Emanuel Urguhart Oliver & Hedges N/A N/A
Willkie Farr & Gallagher / 5 / 3
Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe / 9 / 11
Allen & Overy N/A N/A
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft / 19 / 8
Proskauer Rose / 23 / 21
Baker Botts / 4 / 2

Total: 493 BU Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms, 308 BC Alumni work at Vault top-40 firms


too lazy to see what enrollment is at both, but anyone know what % of graduates these numbers represent?

According to ABA data, the number of graduates are BC 255, BU 293.

Normalized by class size: 168% BU, 121% BC
So BU places about 39% more per-capita into the Vault top 40.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby barkingbug » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:55 am

Objectively speaking, BU is the better choice by most measures, but it is very close. They are somewhat interchangeable.

In terms of campus, there is a significant difference. BC is much nicer inside and out (more spacious) in my opinion. It is a pain in the ass to get to via public transportation though. I really don't think people understand how much of a pain in the ass it is depending on where you live or go to at night. It is a 10-15 minute bus ride after going all the way to the end of one of the longest subway lines in the city (which splits 4(ish) times along the way.) BU is much more central. BU will not help you in terms of parking at all, but BC will offer you a reasonably-priced spot.

Just a small factor I guess... Props to the kid who said BU is just middle of the road compared to BC. I cannot imagine how much research produced that conclusion.

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Re: BU law vs. BC law???

Postby Aristone » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:28 am

BC has the slight edge in NE/Mid Atlantic. The numbers thrown out by ls10 are important, but realize that BU cut its enrollment significantly within the last 5 or so years. BU seems to have more national mobility, but iin this economy that means scheisse...you're not getting to CA unless you're top 5% at either. BC has a distinct edge in Boston....ask the partners of any major firm there (especially hiring partners...theyre important to talk to). Check the NLJ data as well as Ciolli data....BC seems to be the better choice for the Northeast. Both are good...goodluck.




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