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Seton Hall Law

Postby jc12345 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:14 pm

I’m currently deciding what law schools I want to attend in the future. I wanted to know the reputuation of shu law school and see how it places in NYC/NJ. Is it worth it with a scholarship? I’m not sure if big law is the direction I want to head so that’s not the biggest factor. I’ve heard great things about the school and wanted to get an outside prospective.

Simply put, is it worth going to this school?

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby KENYADIGG1T » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:40 pm

What are your stats? I think it might be helpful to also think about whether your are maximizing your options with the stats you have.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby KPUSN07 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:12 pm

Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

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Re: Seton Hall Law

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Barack O'Drama » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:19 pm

KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ


Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

Looks like a pretty underrated school with a big scholarship and if your goal is to work in NJ. BL prospects aren't great, but looks like grads have other options.
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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby devilblue » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:20 pm

KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ


The "best law school in NJ" is Harvard, or Yale, or Columbia, or NYU, or Cornell, or Duke, or UVA, etc. etc. Being the best law school physically located in a state doesn't do too much because there are in fact no impediments to students from other schools traveling over state lines. An average NJ kid who goes to NYU is going to have an easier time getting a job in NJ than an average Seton Hall kid.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:36 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

It's moreso that just every low level judge has clerks in NJ, so it's a local idiosyncratic demand thing. If you look at Rutgers, I'm sure you'll see a high clerk rate too.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Barack O'Drama » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:40 pm

Rigo wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

It's moreso that just every low level judge has clerks in NJ, so it's a local idiosyncratic demand thing. If you look at Rutgers, I'm sure you'll see a high clerk rate too.


Makes sense!
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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby KPUSN07 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:45 pm

Rigo wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

It's moreso that just every low level judge has clerks in NJ, so it's a local idiosyncratic demand thing. If you look at Rutgers, I'm sure you'll see a high clerk rate too.


From what I saw - it's somewhat similar, but lower rate than Seton Hall.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby jc12345 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:46 pm

Rigo wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

It's moreso that just every low level judge has clerks in NJ, so it's a local idiosyncratic demand thing. If you look at Rutgers, I'm sure you'll see a high clerk rate too.


Would you say it’s not worth it going to the school then?

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:49 pm

jc12345 wrote:
Rigo wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
KPUSN07 wrote:Also curious - Their employment stats are fantastic, but half the graduates gain state clerkships.... Not sure if that skews the employment data for what it might really be.... Also the best law school in NJ

Whoa! According to LSN 54% do get state/local clerkships. That's pretty impressive imo.

It's moreso that just every low level judge has clerks in NJ, so it's a local idiosyncratic demand thing. If you look at Rutgers, I'm sure you'll see a high clerk rate too.

Would you say it’s not worth it going to the school then?

Not saying that at all.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:51 pm

In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers

Give us more info so we can help you in a more informed way.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby KPUSN07 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:45 pm

I've been admitted to SHU - also admitted to six other schools, but SHU intrigues me due to location - additionally I'm waiting on other decisions, so SHU is not a definitive decision - I think the OP and I were curious about the reputation, the quality of education (legal writing, journals, students currently at the school, etc) the job outcomes associated with half of its graduates going into clerkships, and competition within NJ/NY compared to Fordham, NYU, Columbia, HYS, etc.... For me personally, $$$ is not a problem and a career goal, nebulous, to serve in the public sector...

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby cavalier1138 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:07 pm

KPUSN07 wrote:I've been admitted to SHU - also admitted to six other schools, but SHU intrigues me due to location - additionally I'm waiting on other decisions, so SHU is not a definitive decision - I think the OP and I were curious about the reputation, the quality of education (legal writing, journals, students currently at the school, etc) the job outcomes associated with half of its graduates going into clerkships, and competition within NJ/NY compared to Fordham, NYU, Columbia, HYS, etc.... For me personally, $$$ is not a problem and a career goal, nebulous, to serve in the public sector...


The problem is that you (and the OP) are asking for abstract information that doesn't exist. Any school's reputation, job outcomes, etc. can only be evaluated based on your specific career goals, cost of attendance, and other options. Seton Hall might be a phenomenal school for you (or the OP), but without any specific info, it's impossible to give a good answer to your questions.

Also, the "quality of education" is the same everywhere, so drop that criterion from your evaluation, regardless.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby jingosaur » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:12 pm

It's a second tier NY metro law school. Your most likely outcome is a one year NJ state court clerkship followed by shitlaw or doc review. Areyouinsane went there (look up his posting history for a negative review of the school).

If being a lawyer is really what you want to do and you're okay with a $45k salary, it's a viable option with little or no debt.

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Re: Seton Hall Law

Postby Ilovemydogxo » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:24 pm

areyouinsane wrote:Dear God, choosing b/t Brooklyn and Seton Hall? That's like deciding whether to drink cyanide or put a pistol in your mouth. Both schools are absurdly overpriced, have abysmal biglaw placement, and mostly just operate as diploma mills to siphon Stafford loan booty into the hands of their fatcat admins and profs.

Spend some time on this website to get an idea of what awaits you OP:


http://temporaryattorney.blogspot.com/2 ... idity.html




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