rpupkin wrote: McMooch wrote: rpupkin wrote:
McMooch wrote:Goals are litigation, especially appellate litigation, in secondary market (TX, FL, etc.).
Oh, I missed this. If your goal is appellate litigation in Texas or Florida, then you should go to a Texas or Florida law school. Neither HLS nor CLS will help you much with your goal.
Really? That's not the type of secondary market we're referring to?
We were referring to big law offices in secondary markets. But if you're focused on something as esoteric as appellate litigation in Texas or Florida (which the big law firms don't really do), then your focus needs to change.
First, what attracts you to appellate litigation other than "prestige"? Do you know what it entails? Do you know how it works?
Second, as rpupkin alluded to, there are very very few jobs in dedicated "appellate litigation". If you're talking about the federal level, these are the elite of elite (T13 + top 5-10% grades + feeder/SCOTUS clerkship), and they generally work in insanely credentialed lit boutiques (e.g., Kellogg Hansen), insanely credentialed departments of biglaw firms (e.g., GDC/Wilmer DC), or insanely credentialed departments of the federal government (e.g., OSG). Those outcomes are so "unicorn-ish" that they can't be figured into your plans at all. Moreover, the vast majority of these jobs will not be in secondary markets. (There may be some dedicated appellate shops in secondary markets that do like all immigration or 1983 litigation at the federal level, but that's not generally what 0Ls are talking about when they say "appellate litigation").
If you're talking about the state level, as in "state appellate litigation", this is much more attainable but, as rpupkin noted, will be much more dependent on other factors like ties and experience. So if you want to do Texas appellate lit with no ties, you should get full ride to Texas and get as much appellate experience as you can during law school. Again, though, the state appellate issues aren't as "sexy" as 0Ls are likely envisioning.
I think much of the discussion in this thread was based around the idea of you going to generic biglaw. If you're actually looking for state-level appellate lit in a secondary market, then that's fine and you should probably reapply and shoot for a school in your target market with a full ride, or take a full ride to a T14 if you have pre-existing ties to a secondary market. If you actually want sexy, federal appellate lit, then you need to reassess your goals. In the (most likely) scenario that you have no idea idea what appellate lit is or what it entails, you should also reassess your goals and likely focus on the generic biglaw lit debate that has enveloped most of this thread.