Anon.y.mousse. wrote: Dcc617 wrote: Npret wrote: Anon.y.mousse. wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:I'd be LIPP bound at Harvard, probably with full debt
^^ unless OPs fin aid at H has changed
Thanks. So I don't understand complaining about at least a hundred thousand dollars less debt (plus more resources) from Chicago.
Dude wants to go to Harvard. There is no reasoning with him about it. People get this way.
(2nd) OP, it really does just seem like you want to go to Harvard and you're looking for any reason to justify that choice. I know you think your rationalizations make sense, but it honestly sounds crazy as someone sitting on the sideline. I can't imagine doing the mental gymnastics necessary to get to the conclusion that 250k+ in debt and relying on a debt repayment plan is a smarter decision than 50k in debt from a peer school. Of course it's not 0 debt, but to act like they're comprable is silly. Particularly because you don't seem completely sure which path in your field of interest is the one you'll take (impact lit vs policy work vs something else I'm forgetting)- it'd be one thing kind of if you were sure you'd be working as a public defender or something idk but even then.
Also you don't get brownie points for breaking into these incredibly competitive fields by doing it from a harder position (ie standing out and rising to the top of a 600+ class at H rather than benefitting from the personalized attention that a Ruby has from day 1). You are literally forfeiting the massive benefit of faculty willing to go to bat to get you those positions or put you in a position to be successful because it "feels weird" and banking on being able to stand out in some way at H. Obviously you're smart so it can happen, but your concern for potential classmates at Chicago seems really misguided - newsflash, they'll all turn out fine.
Of course I like Harvard more. That should be completely clear. But the fact that I haven't just made that choice testifies to the fact that I do take this seriously. I spent the money to go visit Chicago last minute and had meetings with the Fin Aid office, multiple current students, and the Ruby director. I continue to ask questions, do my research, and compare the debt outcomes. I understand that debt is a burden, and I understand that, should my plans change, $50K is much, much easier to escape than $300K. However, there's a risk analysis that needs to be done: I'm very, very, very unlikely to choose a career path that isn't under LIPP.
If my out of pocket debt costs at Harvard and Chicago will end up being ballpark equal over the 10 years after graduation on most of the likely paths I choose, isn't weighing the other reasons to choose one school vs. the other a valid consideration?
I've discussed this with many people, including several people I work with (who all hold JDs from T13 schools), and they understand my dilemma and why I'm really wrestling with this. I've discussed it with friends currently at various T3 schools, and the get it too. None of you seem to be acknowledging the fact that my actual out of pocket costs will likely end up being quite similar.
... with in the rank of a few tens of thousands of dollars either way
edit to add: I don't think I get extra brownie points. I'm just more comfortable in the environment of NOT being a special snowflake.