A. Nony Mouse wrote:because "is x school worth it" is a dumb google search. I would google employment stats or something that's an actual search, not a Yahoo questions question. I would be looking for data, not some random people arguing about shit on internet forums.
I'm baffled that you find any of this baffling. There are plenty of people arguing with you about this. And FWIW, I applied to law school in the days before LST and scamblogs and mandatory disclosures. I don't think there's been that great a shift yet in understanding how this all works. (But then I also don't believe shit like "someone with a 142 is too stupid to be a lawyer" either.) People also aren't always as suspicious of schools as they should be. Again, the school has the most information about their programs, and schools are non-profit entities, right? People without a lot of exposure to this kind of thing don't realize that schools don't actually look out for the best interests of applicants.
the people "arguing" about this aren't arguing anything at all - they are spewing emotional, self-righteous bs lol.
if someone did research the employment stats, they almost certainly wouldn't go to Whittier, and if they did, they'd be negligent to do so. a google search of Whittier's employment stats will bring you to LST in just a few clicks. as I said, if you're limiting your research on a quarter million dollar investment to the website of the institution that is selling the quarter million dollar product, then you're an idiot.
and lastly, there HAS been a great shift in the understanding of how this all works, which is precisely why there has been a massive decline in applications over the last half decade.
So what you're saying is that if they google that question, there's one only one right answer to it(mylsn) and if they don't find that answer and/or come to the same conclusion you would from that, they're idiots? Why would the average 0L disregard everything they've heard both from school materials and elsewhere because of what they saw on one website? Do you really expect 0L's to go on mylsn look up their schools info and be like "oh my god, look at how horrible those numbers, are, I should give up on this despite all the people around me telling me this is a great idea/information that contradicts this? I'm sorry that is not a reasonable expectation of the average 0L, nm one's who are going to TTTT's(who have probably little exposure to the norms of this process).
Here's a list of reasons why people go to TTT's and TTTT's
1)good local reputation that outweighs whatever they read online
2)students can go to better schools but are getting the best deals at TTTT's
3)students want to become a lawyer and will attend the only program they can attend, god damm the consequence
4)want to be solo practitioners(ignoring how difficult this is in reality) and thus don't care about the employment stats
5)I think it's fair to say it's more likely for 0L's to access the fake employment stats and propaganda materials a school sends them in the mail than find the ABA 509's/Employment reports. Also ABA employment reports and 509's just give raw numbers not percentages which makes it more difficult for students to put it in context(I just put it in Excel but this takes time).
6)many people will get nothing but positive feedback from their family, friends and community and simply don't know the people qualified to give them advice(and some of these people give advice that would make TLS cringe anyway).
7)if a student went into alot of UG debt and doesn't believe they will ever pay this off anyway they might doubledown with another degree. Some just don't understand what debt is.
you'd be suprised how many people have no idea how interest works. Paying back 200k in debt over time that doesn't grow is a very different thing than paying 200k in debt with 6% interest and if interest worked the way they thought it did, a lot of insane decisions would actually make sense somewhat.