Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby candidlatke » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:10 pm

usnwr did vandy dirty with how ucla and georgetown shaped out

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby jjcorvino » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:23 pm

Any ideas of when Columbia comes out?

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Postby do_me_a_favor » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:35 pm

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby favabeansoup » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:43 pm

do_me_a_favor wrote:
candidlatke wrote:usnwr did vandy dirty with how ucla and georgetown shaped out

i know!!!!! do you think we (vandy) can jump ahead of UCLA next year at least? if this kind of performance continues i could see nipping at UT's heels one day


I frankly don't understand why the ranking isn't Vandy/GULC>>UT/UCLA given Vandy's employment outcomes over the past few years.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby goldenbear2020 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:44 pm

Rigo wrote:Yeah UCLA's isn't bad but it's surprisingly weak considering peer schools are all up (no word on USC yet).

Not surprising at all to me. The CA market is not picking up as quickly as NY/DC/Chi/etc.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:46 pm

favabeansoup wrote:
do_me_a_favor wrote:
candidlatke wrote:usnwr did vandy dirty with how ucla and georgetown shaped out

i know!!!!! do you think we (vandy) can jump ahead of UCLA next year at least? if this kind of performance continues i could see nipping at UT's heels one day


I frankly don't understand why the ranking isn't Vandy/GULC>>UT/UCLA given Vandy's employment outcomes over the past few years.


I heard that it also has to do with student/faculty ratio (vandy seems to have far fewer faculty compared to its tiny class size) but correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby favabeansoup » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:47 pm

Northwestern up, not sure if already posted.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... y_2016.pdf

Had to just mess with url to find not officially on page yet.

153 grads in 100+ firms
18 grads at fed clerks
249 total grads

68.67 biglaw/fed clerk rate. [2015 was 69.44% so down a little bit this year]

Edit: the lack of UT's employment numbers as all this come out is telling and making me bite my nails.
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:47 pm

Employment outcomes really aren't weighted as heavily as you'd think in the rankings methodology. Link.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby PrezRand » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:49 pm

For someone who would want to practice in Dallas/Houston or ATL, would going to Vandy be a better option than UT or Emory now?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Nebby » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:50 pm

PrezRand wrote:For someone who would want to practice in Dallas/Houston or ATL, would going to Vandy be a better option than UT or Emory now?

I think the difference maker between UT and Vandy would be whichever has lower COA

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:51 pm

PrezRand wrote:For someone who would want to practice in Dallas/Houston or ATL, would going to Vandy be a better option than UT or Emory now?

Let's not get crazy.
I'd do UT for Dallas & Houston, Vandy for Atlanta with equal scholarships.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby favabeansoup » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:51 pm

PrezRand wrote:For someone who would want to practice in Dallas/Houston or ATL, would going to Vandy be a better option than UT or Emory now?


no. UT regional power still holds better. Just because Vandy can get more kids in other markets like NYC/DC/CA easier doesn't mean Vandy can start beating out UT in its home turf.

Also would depend heavily on cost/scholarship calculations. If in some alternate reality Vandy was 50-70k cheaper, maybe go over UT.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:51 pm

(wants to work in Texas)
(UT stats haven't even been released)
(asks if Vandy is a better choice)

Man, this thread is savage.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:52 pm

cannibal ox wrote:(wants to work in Texas)
(UT stats haven't even been released)
(asks if Vandy is a better choice)

Man, this thread is savage.

March: UT becomes a T14.
April: UT becomes dogshit.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby favabeansoup » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:53 pm

cannibal ox wrote:(wants to work in Texas)
(UT stats haven't even been released)
(asks if Vandy is a better choice)

Man, this thread is savage.


UT <40% confirmed

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby PeanutsNJam » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:56 pm

Inb4 UT comes out with >60%

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:57 pm

UCLA's performance seems to mostly be driven by a big drop in federal clerks. Biglaw seems to have have held.

Like someone mentioned above, it does seem like CA's legal market is lagging behind others; I get the impression a lot of the employment score increases are attributable to NYC's market picking up. Hard to say for sure though without better data. I'm curious to see what Berkeley's #s are.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Pure Applesauce » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:01 pm

lol UT is still a better idea if you want Texas over vandy. We don't even know UTs numbers yet anyway

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:03 pm

Rigo wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:(wants to work in Texas)
(UT stats haven't even been released)
(asks if Vandy is a better choice)

Man, this thread is savage.

March: UT becomes a T14.
April: UT becomes dogshit.


Liz Lemon/Univ of Texas Law: I was popular for one glorious fortnight and then it went away. I don't know what I did wrong.
Tracy Jordan/Top-Law-Schools: You probably said fortnight.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby dclaw93 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:25 pm

Pretty crazy: NU sent a higher percentage to PI than Mich. Seems to completely go against the reputations the 2 schools have on here.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cheaptilts » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:30 pm

dclaw93 wrote:Pretty crazy: NU sent a higher percentage to PI than Mich. Seems to completely go against the reputations the 2 schools have on here.

Seems to also go against the excuses for Michigan's placement

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Postby champloo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:32 pm

dclaw93 wrote:Pretty crazy: NU sent a higher percentage to PI than Mich. Seems to completely go against the reputations the 2 schools have on here.

I think a good portion of that 100 mil was dedicated towards PI focused programs. NU will probably send more to PI from now on.

eta: why does the subject line automatically insert my name instead of copying the op title?
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby amta » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:33 pm

i wont go to UT unless they come out sub-40%.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby PrezRand » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:34 pm

cannibal ox wrote:(wants to work in Texas)
(UT stats haven't even been released)
(asks if Vandy is a better choice)

Man, this thread is savage.

Had to do it since this thread was already hating on UT

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby dclaw93 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:35 pm

cheaptilts wrote:
dclaw93 wrote:Pretty crazy: NU sent a higher percentage to PI than Mich. Seems to completely go against the reputations the 2 schools have on here.

Seems to also go against the excuses for Michigan's placement

Agreed. But it looks like biggest difference between Mich/the other schools ranked 7-13 is actually state/local clerkships and government jobs, at least this year. Mich is at 15.9% and the other schools are all under 10%.



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