Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

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Postby mrtux45 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:37 pm



Basically the same as 2015 but with a smaller class, not bad

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Yankees1313 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:41 pm

What are BC's numbers?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Lavitz » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:48 pm

Yankees1313 wrote:What are BC's numbers?

87 in biglaw
3 in federal clerkships
227 total graduates

38.3% + 1.3% = 39.6%

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby tuesdayninja » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Lavitz wrote:
Yankees1313 wrote:What are BC's numbers?

87 in biglaw
3 in federal clerkships
227 total graduates

38.3% + 1.3% = 39.6%


Damn BC.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby mrtux45 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Lavitz wrote:
Yankees1313 wrote:What are BC's numbers?

87 in biglaw
3 in federal clerkships
227 total graduates

38.3% + 1.3% = 39.6%


Compared with 2015:

94 biglaw
8 federal clerkship
247 grads

41.3%

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Yankees1313 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:10 pm

Consistently near 40%, not too bad. And had a lot of state clerkships.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby ashrice13 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:19 pm

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby LawMan16 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:11 pm

Yale's numbers are up.

72.9% BL+FC, as compared to the c/o 2015 with 72.3%.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Nebby » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:26 pm

Ty to everyone who is finding the data. I'll update OP when I'm at my PC next

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby zot1 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:29 pm

Nebby wrote:Ty to everyone who is finding the data. I'll update OP when I'm at my PC next


Are you doing all schools or T13?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Rigo » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:33 pm

zot1 wrote:
Nebby wrote:Ty to everyone who is finding the data. I'll update OP when I'm at my PC next

Are you doing all schools or T13?

He did all schools posting above 10% last year, which I think is a reasonable cutoff.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby zot1 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:34 pm

Rigo wrote:
zot1 wrote:
Nebby wrote:Ty to everyone who is finding the data. I'll update OP when I'm at my PC next

Are you doing all schools or T13?

He did all schools posting above 10% last year, which I think is a reasonable cutoff.


That's fair. Too bad for Penn State.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Rigo » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:36 pm

zot1 wrote:
Rigo wrote:
zot1 wrote:
Nebby wrote:Ty to everyone who is finding the data. I'll update OP when I'm at my PC next

Are you doing all schools or T13?

He did all schools posting above 10% last year, which I think is a reasonable cutoff.

That's fair. Too bad for Penn State.

I mean he also rounded to nearest percentage/rounded up so it might make it.

On the median spreadsheets I'm always like damn do I really need to add Ohio Northern and shit, but such is TLS tradition.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby luckyirish13 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:48 pm

Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 has a base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same or less than a PI attorney would make, then why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work? Shouldn't it be neither or both?

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Postby proteinshake » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:49 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same or less than a PI attorney would make, why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work?

because Federal Clerks usually go to big law after. the stat is concerned with how many people can/do secure big law.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby zot1 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:49 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same or less than a PI attorney would make, why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work?


Because those who have A3 clerkships either already have an offer for biglaw or could get one post-clerkship (which isn't true of PI folk).

Scooooooped.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:51 pm

Rigo wrote:On the median spreadsheets I'm always like damn do I really need to add Ohio Northern and shit, but such is TLS tradition.


Wow, egregious ROSCOBOB callout.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:56 pm

zot1 wrote:
luckyirish13 wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same or less than a PI attorney would make, why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work?


Because those who have A3 clerkships either already have an offer for biglaw or could get one post-clerkship (which isn't true of PI folk).

Scooooooped.



Plus you cop dat 50k signing bonus.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby proleteriate » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:58 pm

proteinshake wrote:
luckyirish13 wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same or less than a PI attorney would make, why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work?

because Federal Clerks usually go to big law after. the stat is concerned with how many people can/do secure big law.


ur also likely getting the locality rate, so it's more like 60k base, likely more if ur at a bigger city. Additionally, Clerkships are very valuable, and many forego the 180k salary because it's so damn valuable. That's why 33% of this year's YLS grads are clerking instead of going biglaw, which they can all get if they want.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby zot1 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:00 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:Sorry for my ignorance, but if a federal clerkship immediately out of Law School as a JSP-11 has a base salary of $52,329, https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualifications_salary_benefits which is about the same orless than a PI attorney would make, then why do we factor federal Clerkship's into these numbers but not PI work? Shouldn't it be neither or both?


FTFY

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby luckyirish13 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:09 pm

. (deleting and starting new thread)
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby zot1 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:11 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:This interests me, and I really should know more about it. (If this is the wrong thread to ask let me know and I'll move it, but since we're on the topic I have some questions)
It appears that a Federal Clerkship opens the door to basically any legal job you want afterwards. Proletariate says it's "so damn valuable". How exactly is it so valuable and what does it lead to? Just Biglaw? Anything else?
Also why would one take a Federal Clerkship rather than Biglaw if Biglaw is their ultimate goal?
If someone does not intend to take Biglaw, is there still a value to a federal clerkship?
A Clerkship is not covered by an LRAP right? Yale's COAP or Harvard's LIPP might cover it, but otherwise you'll be eating the cost of your student loans during the duration of your clerkship right?


You should start a thread in the ask a grad/law student forum.
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby jbagelboy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:11 pm

luckyirish13 wrote:This interests me, and I really should know more about it. (If this is the wrong thread to ask let me know and I'll move it, but since we're on the topic I have some questions)
It appears that a Federal Clerkship opens the door to basically any legal job you want afterwards. Proletariate says it's "so damn valuable". How exactly is it so valuable and what does it lead to? Just Biglaw? Anything else?
Also why would one take a Federal Clerkship rather than Biglaw if Biglaw is their ultimate goal?
If someone does not intend to take Biglaw, is there still a value to a federal clerkship?
A Clerkship is not covered by an LRAP right? Yale's COAP or Harvard's LIPP might cover it, but otherwise you'll be eating the cost of your student loans during the duration of your clerkship right?


COAP and LIPP do not cover clerkships.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Po$eidon » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:15 pm

Am I the only one sitting here like "great numbers!!! Hope they stay like that in 3 years after an unstable hurricane of an executive has had a few years to mangle the country's finances!!"

Is this how the class of 2009 in 2006 felt?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:26 pm

Po$eidon wrote:Am I the only one sitting here like "great numbers!!! Hope they stay like that in 3 years after an unstable hurricane of an executive has had a few years to mangle the country's finances!!"

Is this how the class of 2009 in 2006 felt?

We're do for another recession pretty soon, so I feel like current 0L's should be prepared.



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