Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby CR7 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:43 pm

Anyone have data for Michigan, NYU, and Georgetown

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby dm1683 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:20 pm

waiting for my tt UG school's stats to come out so I can convince a friend of mine not to go.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby runinthefront » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:34 pm

Stanford

https://www-cdn.law.stanford.edu/wp-con ... tats-1.pdf

Total grads: 183
Biglaw: 92 = 50.2%
Fed Clerkships: 45 = 24.5%

74.7% in BL/FC

(side note: Stanford does a great job detailing where its "JD Advantage"/PI graduates go. Kudos to them.)
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:53 pm

runinthefront wrote:Stanford

https://www-cdn.law.stanford.edu/wp-con ... tats-1.pdf

Total grads: 183
Biglaw: 92 = 50.2%
Fed Clerkships: 45 = 24.5%

74.7% in BL/FC

(side note: Stanford does a great job detailing where its "JD Advantage"/PI graduates go. Kudos to them.)

Yeah it's definite proof that at top schools (but who knows how top) business/industry jobs are actually legit.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby UVA2B » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:56 pm

runinthefront wrote:Stanford

https://www-cdn.law.stanford.edu/wp-con ... tats-1.pdf

Total grads: 183
Biglaw: 92 = 50.2%
Fed Clerkships: 45 = 24.5%

74.7% in BL/FC

(side note: Stanford does a great job detailing where its "JD Advantage"/PI graduates go. Kudos to them.)


Agreed, the greater transparency on opaque outcomes is welcomed. I think you might see (to a lesser degree) this holding true at most of the T13. It's probably not as rosy as you go down the list, but it's nice to see the quantifiable difference in non BL+Art. III outcomes at this tier with some possibility of extrapolation.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby grades?? » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:57 pm

YDS confirmed.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:58 pm

grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby grades?? » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:01 pm

OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:04 pm

grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby proteinshake » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:05 pm

grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

I feel like Chicago will (they had 83% last year). but I agree with DPV.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:06 pm

kingpin101 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.


Guessing CC goes to 80+ with N in the low 70s.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby grades?? » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:06 pm

proteinshake wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

I feel like Chicago will (they had 83% last year). but I agree with DPV.


Okay okay

CCDYHSPV is fine with me too

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:41 pm

OneHandedEconomist wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.


Guessing CC goes to 80+ with N in the low 70s.


Can't see N getting much higher than mid low/mid 70s with ~10% of each class being JD-MBA.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:43 pm

RedPurpleBlue wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.


Guessing CC goes to 80+ with N in the low 70s.


Can't see N getting much higher than mid low/mid 70s with ~10% of each class being JD-MBA.


Lol, also having a fucking class of 500.

ABA should cap enrollment at 300 for all schools.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:44 pm

RedPurpleBlue wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.


Guessing CC goes to 80+ with N in the low 70s.


Can't see N getting much higher than mid low/mid 70s with ~10% of each class being JD-MBA.

I see a confusion of N's going on here.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:45 am

kingpin101 wrote:
RedPurpleBlue wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
grades?? wrote:YDS confirmed.


*DPV


Thats fine with me. Given that Yale usually has a lower BL+FC rate (because unicorn jobs), it is now at least likely if not almost guaranteed that Duke will have the highest combined number (if we assume UVA's data posted earlier is correct).

Uh no CLS and Chicago will very likely be higher.


Guessing CC goes to 80+ with N in the low 70s.


Can't see N getting much higher than mid low/mid 70s with ~10% of each class being JD-MBA.

I see a confusion of N's going on here.


100%. I just had an "Oh" moment after reading the comment about a class of 500.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby jbagelboy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:14 am

Whoa. Very strong showing so far for c/o 2016. UVA at 77%!

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Npret » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:51 am

Congrats everyone. This is getting to pre ITE levels. It's not primarily the schools it's the market. Schools can place when there are jobs. Looks like jobs are back. My old firm is over 100 SAs in NYC which is basically the old days level.

Great news considering govt public hiring may be way down again outside certain areas. That's just politics.

Edit: 0Ls don't get cocky though. You still have to get the job. School cant hand it to you. But it's so much better than the past.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Dr. Nefario » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:26 am

BU's not *live* but messing around with the link got me the tentative info as of March 15.

https://www.bu.edu/law/careers/employme ... 6-testing/

2015 2016 Difference
Big Law. 70. 78. +8
Fed Clerk. 2. 2. --
Total Grads 208. 222. +14
Percentage. 34.6%. 36%. +1.5%

10% increase since Class of 2013.

ETA: went through and tried this for the rest of the t14 and several others, but didn't work.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby thereelfeels » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:11 am

Dickinson - 3/34 - 8.8% (+5.3%)

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Rigo » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:16 am

thereelfeels wrote:Dickinson - 3/34 - 8.8% (+5.3%)

Are you doing this right? I get Dickinson has small class sizes but 34 seems abnormally small. You should divide by the total grads, not just the employed grads.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby tuesdayninja » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:25 am

Dr. Nefario wrote:BU's not *live* but messing around with the link got me the tentative info as of March 15.

https://www.bu.edu/law/careers/employme ... 6-testing/

2015 2016 Difference
Big Law. 70. 78. +8
Fed Clerk. 2. 2. --
Total Grads 208. 222. +14
Percentage. 34.6%. 36%. +1.5%

10% increase since Class of 2013.

ETA: went through and tried this for the rest of the t14 and several others, but didn't work.


That link doesn't work, requires a login?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:40 am

How should current 0L's interpret this data? Since there's about a year and a half until we go through OCI?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Nebby » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:48 am

OneHandedEconomist wrote:How should current 0L's interpret this data? Since there's about a year and a half until we go through OCI?

You should use this data in deciding what schools provide the best shot at biglaw or clerkships. The only outlier of the general placement trend is CLS, which has a subpar clerkship office, but anyone with good grades and hustle can still land clerkships.

A single year's data isn't as important as trends. Once the data is out and I have free time I will post a chart that shows 3 year trends. That trend data is more important than a single year data point.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby runinthefront » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:51 am

Nebby wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:How should current 0L's interpret this data? Since there's about a year and a half until we go through OCI?

You should use this data in deciding what schools provide the best shot at biglaw or clerkships. The only outlier of the general placement trend is CLS, which has a subpar clerkship office, but anyone with good grades and hustle can still land clerkships.

A single year's data isn't as important as trends. Once the data is out and I have free time I will post a chart that shows 3 year trends. That trend data is more important than a single year data point.

lol Nebby

What makes you think the offices at Cornell/UPenn/NU aren't similarly "bad" and deflating the clerkship numbers? (or that Chicago's/Harvard's clerkship offices are operating/placing students at their full potential?) Weird, unfounded comment to make.
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