Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby AT9 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:14 pm

cannibal ox wrote:
AT9 wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:Here is the full list, formatted to match the OP, that includes all t50 schools (and some high scoring non t50 schools)

Nebby wrote:

Copy this table for the OP

Wake Forest: 20.1% [12.3%] (+7.8%)


FYI this is closer than the initial number, but still a tiny bit off: 31 BL +7 fed clerks = 38/184 = 20.7% [12.3%] [+8.4%]


Biglaw is 16 + 9 + 5 = 30

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Edit: there is 1 person who is "full time, short term" which does not count for biglaw statistics


My bad, was looking at the less detailed version on the website that showed 17.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:23 pm

I did the t15-t50 schools by hand for both 2016 and 2015 so if anyone thinks there's a mistake please double-check. I'd be surprised if I did every school perfectly.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby star fox » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:51 pm

Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby proteinshake » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:08 am

Duke's comprehensive employment data https://law.duke.edu/career/employmentdata/

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby curry1 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:20 am

star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %



wow, seems like jd advantage/business jobs are actually real

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:21 am

curry1 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %



wow, seems like jd advantage/business jobs are actually real


We've always known this to be the case at the schools with 3 year JD/MBA (Northwestern, Columbia, and Penn)

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:29 am

cannibal ox wrote:I did the t15-t50 schools by hand for both 2016 and 2015 so if anyone thinks there's a mistake please double-check. I'd be surprised if I did every school perfectly.

This is hardly 3LOL behavior.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby cannibal ox » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:40 am

Hikikomorist wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:I did the t15-t50 schools by hand for both 2016 and 2015 so if anyone thinks there's a mistake please double-check. I'd be surprised if I did every school perfectly.

This is hardly 3LOL behavior.


That's exactly 3LOL behavior, as I have papers to write and classes I haven't been to in weeks, but instead spent my energy doing anything but those things.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:42 am

curry1 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %



wow, seems like jd advantage/business jobs are actually real


They have Kellogg MBAs. Was there really any doubt they'd be getting great jobs?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby bearsfan23 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:53 am

RedPurpleBlue wrote:
curry1 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %



wow, seems like jd advantage/business jobs are actually real


They have Kellogg MBAs. Was there really any doubt they'd be getting great jobs?


Wharton > Kellogg

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:00 am

bearsfan23 wrote:
RedPurpleBlue wrote:
curry1 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %



wow, seems like jd advantage/business jobs are actually real


They have Kellogg MBAs. Was there really any doubt they'd be getting great jobs?


Wharton > Kellogg


1) Wharton is not remotely pertinent to the point of this discussion.
2) Thank you for stating the obvious

The point is that it's not remotely surprising that the JD advantage/business jobs for a school with an M7 MBA program are well-paying.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Pragmatic Gun » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:15 am

I think the equation would change if Yale had its own B school.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby KissMyAxe » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:20 am

Pragmatic Gun wrote:I think the equation would change if Yale had its own B school.


I can't tell if you're serious or if this is just a really nice burn on SOM (which it definitely deserves). But it's true that some dual-degree students turn down the built-in JD-MBA in order to do business school at Harvard.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:28 am

Pragmatic Gun wrote:I think the equation would change if Yale had its own B school.

:lol:

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:51 am

star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %

Interesting that the median salary of jobs w/ 51-100 firms is 180k.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby curry1 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:53 am

kingpin101 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %

Interesting that the median salary of jobs w/ 51-100 firms is 180k.


you realize that the "median" is out of a sample of 5, right?

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby registering » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:56 am

curry1 wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %

Interesting that the median salary of jobs w/ 51-100 firms is 180k.


you realize that the "median" is out of a sample of 5, right?


So at least 3 people were getting paid market. That'd raise their BL+FC by 1%!

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby guynourmin » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:07 am

registering wrote:
curry1 wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:
star fox wrote:Northwestern's Comprehensive employment data is up: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/profess ... index.html

68.27 % of the class making at least six figures.

Six Figures + Federal Clerk is 188/249 = 75.5 %

Interesting that the median salary of jobs w/ 51-100 firms is 180k.


you realize that the "median" is out of a sample of 5, right?


So at least 3 people were getting paid market. That'd raise their BL+FC by 1%!


and the 25th is 160k, mean is 153k, which means the salaries were 65, 160, 180x3.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby PeanutsNJam » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:32 pm

There is a bunch of (if not better than biglaw) midlaw/JD Advantage jobs available, but they're discounted equally for all schools, so for comparison purposes, BL+FC is fine. The only schools that suffer disproportionately are HYS.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:50 pm

PeanutsNJam wrote:There is a bunch of (if not better than biglaw) midlaw/JD Advantage jobs available, but they're discounted equally for all schools, so for comparison purposes, BL+FC is fine. The only schools that suffer disproportionately are HYS.


Think that's really disingenuous, considering Chicago, Penn, and Northwestern have M7 business schools and are likely landing much better JD Advantage jobs than Michigan, UVA, Berkeley, etc. (save for HYS).

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby PeanutsNJam » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:00 pm

RedPurpleBlue wrote:
PeanutsNJam wrote:There is a bunch of (if not better than biglaw) midlaw/JD Advantage jobs available, but they're discounted equally for all schools, so for comparison purposes, BL+FC is fine. The only schools that suffer disproportionately are HYS.


Think that's really disingenuous, considering Chicago, Penn, and Northwestern have M7 business schools and are likely landing much better JD Advantage jobs than Michigan, UVA, Berkeley, etc. (save for HYS).


Do we know that MBA jobs are categorically filed under "JD Advantage"? If someone gets a JD/MBA at Penn and decides to go into PE, I don't think that's filed under "JD Advantage" for the JD ABA report... is it? Maybe MBB fits under that, but consulting firms hire people with only JDs from like CLS.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby Bach-City » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:41 pm

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby SeewhathappensLarry » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Is there actually a big difference between the M7 and the next 5-10 or so business schools? I know Michigan, UVA, and Berkeley all have top programs but is it kind of analogous to the T20 schools in law on the outside looking in to the T13?

ETA: I ask because I know a bunch of folks at UVA doing the JD/MBA program and many go into IB or something.

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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby RedPurpleBlue » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:02 pm

SeewhathappensLarry wrote:Is there actually a big difference between the M7 and the next 5-10 or so business schools? I know Michigan, UVA, and Berkeley all have top programs but is it kind of analogous to the T20 schools in law on the outside looking in to the T13?


I think the gulf between the T13 and T20 is much bigger (this year is an anomaly in which the T20 is overperforming) than the gulf between M7 and the next few business schools.
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Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School

Postby kingpin101 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:03 pm

Columbia too has 10 FTLT business/industry grads with a median salary of 135k and a 25th percentile of 125k. So these are definitely legit jobs (likely consulting or finance).

This isn't necessarily true at all the t14 schools though. Michigan class of 2015's median business/industry salary was 74k (we don't have 2016's yet).




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