ggmu1992 wrote:BigZuck wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:ggmu1992 wrote:2. I am not ignoring this advice. I think it's good advice, which i would heed, for the top 15-20 schools (including UT). But I know people that have gone to schools 20-50, and I've met people there. I think that for a person who goes to a school they are overqualified for, they'll have a pretty easy time coming out on top, assuming no work ethic problems/other extraneous factors. I've got a friend who matches the profile of the overconfident person who is median at law school, and I am not him. I'm more realistic about my ability, and I work harder.
BUT I also realize that I have absolutely ZERO credibility on this matter until I do it, so I do take everyone's advice on this seriously. I hedge for it, even though I "know" it won't happen to me.
If you do know of a thread where people have gone to a T20-50 school knowing that they are, numbers-wise, better than everyone else there and significantly better than the median, and still have done poorly, I'd be happy to read it. Every time I see this advice, though, it is oriented towards people who are average for their school, OR are going to T14 schools, where of course everyone is brilliant. I don't really want this to be a sticking point for this thread, though. Like I said--please don't conflate my confidence that I can do really well with an inability to consider that I might be wrong.
This just isn't how it works. Working harder doesn't always correlate to performing better than others on an exam, and that's literally the only thing that you're graded on.
I went a T20 with entering stats probably in at least the Top 10% of the class. I ended up above median when I graduated but not significantly so. And that's with me being pretty strategic about what classes I took and genuinely trying hard for all 3 years. I was good at school my whole life, I just wasn't particularly good at law school. It happens. I had no way of predicting that going in.
I appreciate this. Thanks.
Do you still think this would be the case at a lower ranked school? It seems the standard deviation for students is a lot bigger at lower ranked schools (which is why big firms will hire the top few students, and leave the rest).
I don't know if I think that but I do think that expecting to be top 10% at one of these schools is a dumb thing for a supposedly very smart person to think. All it takes is one bad cold or missing that one makeup class where your Torts professor covered all the material on one half of your test (this literally happened) for you to bink one bad (or even just median) grade and then your fated top 10% is out the window.
You don't think this because you're smart or special or whatever but there can be a razor thin margin of error here. Given how few classes actually calculate into your GPA (especially 1L year which is mostly all that matters) it'd be pretty easy to fall into the unwashed medianish masses just based on your performance on a single test.