A. Nony Mouse wrote:Johann, I get that you want to fight with cavalier and be the contrarian on this site, and sometimes that's actually helpful, but stop making dogmatic statements like "people in government can't work more than 40 hours/wk" when you're doing so. If nothing else, it undermines the effectiveness of your contrarianness. (Signed, a government lawyer.)
well why dont you say what percent of your govt colleagues work more than 40 hour weeks than. i dont work in govt. but i know people who work for bigfed, city govt (weird entities and in the local courthouse), and states attorney office etc. nobody works more than a 40 hour week. court clerks dont. PDs dont. state attonreys dont. bigfed im familiar with doesnt. not sure what's left.
Okay, first, your original statement was that people in government *can't* work more than 40 hours a week, which you seem to have dialed back from without acknowledging that that was bullshit. Second, in my last office, people regularly worked late/at home/on the weekends. I'd say 80% were there more than 40 hours a week. (Haven't been in my new office long enough to compare, but I know people come in on the weekends, and I know there's significant resentment of one attorney who keeps a strict 9-5 schedule for being a slacker.) A friend of mine who was on sick leave recovering from surgery was working last Friday morning because she had a response due to a motion for new trial. Anyone who's prepping for trial or in trial works long days/weekends. (Number of trials per year varies, but 3-5 maybe? And of course trial could be multi-week.) Also, depending on the jurisdiction, ADAs and PDs are definitely working more than 40 hours a week (I think our local PDs have case loads of over 200).
Again, I'm not saying its the equivalent of biglaw. Some of those weeks it's not going to be *much* more than 40. And overall it's going to be much more compatible with work-life balance, especially in other agencies than mine (which is probably at the longest-hour end of the spectrum). But what you said was wrong.