Scholarship Stipulations Forum

[tirkman]

So I have a 50k scholarship per year from St. Johns university with the caveat that I must be in the top 60% of my class in order to renew the scholarship for the second and third year. If im able to keep the scholarship that means that I would only be paying 5,000 a year in tuition which means I wouldn't be in any debt. I guess my main question that i would like this thread to talk about is how worried should someone be about losing this type of conditional scholarship, because the 40% chance that the scholarship could be lost gives me serious hesitancy from going this route.

[proteinshake]

0L, but that sounds hella risky and I wouldn't take it unless I could get that stip removed.

[cavalier1138]

You should be very worried about that stipulation. Over half of students who enter with a conditional scholarship lose it, because the school deliberately stacks sections with scholarship recipients. They're a bad school with bad practices.

[mudiverse]

You should be very worried about that stipulation. Over half of students who enter with a conditional scholarship lose it, because the school deliberately stacks sections with scholarship recipients. They're a bad school with bad practices.

I wont ask you for evidence - but how do you know this is the case?

[cavalier1138]

You should be very worried about that stipulation. Over half of students who enter with a conditional scholarship lose it, because the school deliberately stacks sections with scholarship recipients. They're a bad school with bad practices.

I wont ask you for evidence - but how do you know this is the case?

Because it's on the 509 reports. (Not the section stacking, but the numbers are relatively impossible without it. And St. John's is known for it.)

[BL1554]

I had the same offer and walked away from it. I tried and was very unsuccessful in negotiating that stip away and an adcom told me that because my stats were above the median, I would likely be fine and retain the scholarship. Definitely seemed too risky for me.

[guynourmin]

You should be very worried about that stipulation. Over half of students who enter with a conditional scholarship lose it, because the school deliberately stacks sections with scholarship recipients. They're a bad school with bad practices.

I wont ask you for evidence - but how do you know this is the case?

there were 224 1Ls in 2015. 101/188 conditional scholarships were reduced or eliminated. If you evenly divided those 188 students over 4 sections, then they would make up 84% of classes already, so at least 24% would have their scholarships reduced or eliminated. Since 54% (over 2x) had scholarships reduced or eliminated, we assume section stacking, because how else would that happen?

[tirkman]

I appreciate everyone for commenting this has been helpful. I think i've successfully been talked out of going to St. Johns haha.