WheninLaw wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:TEM wrote:2L at ASU here. Forgive my automatic bias, as Berkeley is obviously a great school. One thing to consider, though, when trying to get a clerkship is the role that making connections can help. Many of my classmates that I know secured a post-grad clerkship previously interned/externed for that judge during a summer or 2L year. You can't spend a semester with an AZ judge if you're not in AZ. If your goal is to truly get a fed clerkship in AZ, that may be something to consider. I recently got a Fed externship nearly entirely through connections I made 1L and 2L year. OCS was mad I didn't go through the traditional OCI route, but with decent grades and some hustle, your opportunities may increase (MAY). Good luck either way, sounds like you have some great law school options. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
How many of your classmates are getting federal clerkships (not judicial intern/externships) in Arizona?
Interning for a judge is always easier when you're in that state, but a clerkship is a different beast. There are (generally) no grade requirements to become a judicial intern, and the selection process is much less rigorous than the process for getting a clerkship, especially at the federal level. So while it sounds like ASU has, as expected, a strong connection to AZ state clerkships, I'm not seeing anything in your post to indicate that federal clerkships in the state are easier to get from the school.
Yeah, echo above. ASU's employment #'s are public [https://www.law.asu.edu/sites/default/files/multimedia/abadisclosures/employment-summary-2015_update.pdf]. 4/229 of the class of 2015 got a federal clerkship - that's 1.7%. A quick scan of past years shows that ASU averages 3-5 in any given year. OP - you can't bank on being top 2%.
You're right. And that special snowflake territory has me pausing mightily when confronted with this decision.
I have been focused on a federal clerkship because I saw it as a good path toward more prestigious government spots. The dream would be being a judge (state, or federal if I win the legal lottery), although I recognize that is not something to bank on. 200k worth of debt, even from Berkeley, is pretty scary. Even more so after hearing of their recent ranking outside the T-10.