lawman84 wrote:nealric wrote:jbagelboy wrote:nealric wrote:derekne wrote:Hi Everyone,
I've applied to Columbia this cycle and feel very confident that I will be admitted,(3.77, 178). It's my top realistic choice,(Outside of HYS), but I'm not sure if it's the right choice for me job wise. I have absolutely no desire to live or work in NYC after graduation and ultimately want to work in Texas. Would going to Columbia make getting to Texas much harder? Or will career services help you match to jobs wherever you want to go?
If you go to Columbia and have Texas ties, you will almost certainly get Texas biglaw if that's what you want (barring some major economic apocalypse between now and your 2L recruiting season).
Perhaps I'm a bit too risk adverse, but I'd take Columbia sticker over UT full ride.
I don't think that's risk averse, it seems risk-prone.
Risk of getting the job you want. I'd rather be $300k in debt with a good job lined up than no debt and unemployed. Over time, the difference between a big law track attorney and someone in a small firm is a lot more than $300k plus interest.
Depends on the small firm. You stand a much better chance of making partner at a small firm. What you make as a small firm partner will depend on the firm and you as a lawyer. I can tell you that I know small firm partners who make north of $1 million per year.
Looking at the numbers, I see around 10% of Texas grads under the unemployed category. I see around 2.5% of Columbia grads. That 7.5% isn't nearly enough of a difference for me to take on $300,000 more in debt.
Well yeah. You could be the next Joe Jamail and become a billionaire in your small firm. But on average, small-firm lawyers tend to make less. You may or may not be more likely to make partner (highly situational dependent), but it's not like biglaw associates who don't make partner in their firms will never make partner anywhere.
The 7.5% unemployment difference masks much larger differences in employment outcomes. Someone making $40k a year doing low-end personal injury is "employed" the same as a SCOTUS clerk. CLS is going to have more of the latter type. Of course, there's a significant possibility that CLS vs U.T. will have no difference on career outcome, and UT is no doubt an excellent school.