Business Law without background in Business?

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby RamTitan » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:40 pm

Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby cavalier1138 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:15 pm

RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


If you want to work in corporate law, you need to work on turning that frown upside-down.

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby 34iplaw » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:28 pm

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scalawag wrote:I'm not sure if T14 will be possible.

Gotta take the LSAT, taking in December and again in the Fall. I'm sure I'll hit my max score one of those two times, you can't fuck that thing up twice.

Famous last words...


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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby Voyager » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:11 pm

RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby RamTitan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:52 pm

Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?

Sure, just at HR, marketing, etc. are as well; supporting functions of a business. This is not a wrong sentiment obviously. But that doesn't change the fact that you sound insufferable.

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby RamTitan » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:47 pm

RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?

Sure, just at HR, marketing, etc. are as well; supporting functions of a business. This is not a wrong sentiment obviously. But that doesn't change the fact that you sound insufferable.

With that said, if your lawyer friend feels that way, then he should probably should start his own business or make a career transition instead of complaining

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby Voyager » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:33 pm

RamTitan wrote:Sure, just at HR, marketing, etc. are as well; supporting functions of a business. This is not a wrong sentiment obviously. But that doesn't change the fact that you sound insufferable.


Heh. Well, fair enough.

I do think my answer was rather on point for the OP, though.

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby timbs4339 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:58 am

Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby RamTitan » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:34 pm

timbs4339 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

Seriously? I must be out of touch then haha, that seems ridiculous

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby star fox » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:19 pm

RamTitan wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

Seriously? I must be out of touch then haha, that seems ridiculous

That's because it's not true

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby Voyager » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:29 pm

star fox wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

Seriously? I must be out of touch then haha, that seems ridiculous

That's because it's not true


Heh, well, what did any of us know as 0L... or even 1Ls... Or 3Ls...

I thought I was going to be "MASTER LITIGATOR".

Fantasy:
"Mr. Jarvis: is this your signature?"
"Yes"
*Jr. Associate Voyager moves in for the kill*

Reality:
"Mr. Voyager: did you get my research memo edits?"
"Yes"
*Partner moves in to kill Voyager's weekend*

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby poptart123 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:34 pm

Voyager wrote:
star fox wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

Seriously? I must be out of touch then haha, that seems ridiculous

That's because it's not true


Heh, well, what did any of us know as 0Ls.

I thought I was going to be "MASTER LITIGATOR"


Dang.. I actually took the LSAT because I figured it was my way into finance without numbers on a test. Thanks for exposing this deception for what it truly is!!

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby Voyager » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:38 pm

poptart123 wrote:
Dang.. I actually took the LSAT because I figured it was my way into finance without numbers on a test. Thanks for exposing this deception for what it truly is!!


Please refer to the original post.

At least some 1Ls do not know what being a "corporate attorney" means. I tried to help.

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby poptart123 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:40 pm

Voyager wrote:
poptart123 wrote:
Dang.. I actually took the LSAT because I figured it was my way into finance without numbers on a test. Thanks for exposing this deception for what it truly is!!


Please refer to the original post.

At least some 1Ls do not know what being a "corporate attorney" means. I tried to help.


Why? Your previous posts really influenced me. As you said, I really wanted to backdoor into finance, but I now see that this isn't what happens!!

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby Voyager » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:47 pm

poptart123 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
poptart123 wrote:
Dang.. I actually took the LSAT because I figured it was my way into finance without numbers on a test. Thanks for exposing this deception for what it truly is!!


Please refer to the original post.

At least some 1Ls do not know what being a "corporate attorney" means. I tried to help.


Why? Your previous posts really influenced me. As you said, I really wanted to backdoor into finance, but I now see that this isn't what happens!!


I hope you are just beating this sarcasm drum one beat too far...

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Re: Business Law without background in Business?

Postby timbs4339 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:41 pm

star fox wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
timbs4339 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
Voyager wrote:Corporate law? Requires zero business background.

Business decisions are made by guys like me. Don't worry, I have data and have done the forecasts, ROI and evaluation of business risk. I don't need lawyers to help with that. You guys aren't qualified.

I need lawyers to make sure: (a) my crazy schemes don't get us sued/arrested and (b) to make sure I can hold other parties accountable in a contract.

I am interested in your advice as it pertains to the above. I have zero interest in your evaluation of my business judgment.


Lol, you sound insufferable


Heh. Maybe so... and yet this is exactly how business leaders think about attorneys: as a supporting function.

EDIT: by the way, I new several friends from law school who were really pissed about this. My favorite quote: "I'm so much smarter than these business guys yet they make more than me and work less."
Yeah, friend, maybe so... now don't you have a contract to go review?


He may sound like a dick, but this is tough love. Too many 0Ls who dont want to do math go to law school because they think it will eventually let them backdoor into finance or some other business capacity or they will be doing some hybrid of business and law. It's just not like that, and the sooner more 0Ls realize this the better.

Seriously? I must be out of touch then haha, that seems ridiculous

That's because it's not true


No, it is. Not saying that some lawyers don't make the switch, but the idea of the biglawyer who secretly wants to be a banker/consultant/strategic or the 0L who wants to go to law school because they think it will help them get law jobs and any other job they want are cliches at this point. That's just not how it works.



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