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Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School: #TrustTheProcess

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:41 am
by Nebby
I'm rounding the percentages, but feel free to persuade me otherwise. If you think my percentages below are incorrect then let me know. If you don't see a school here, it's because they came under 10%. If you want to see those schools, then I recommend finding their LST Report.

School: (biglaw* + fed clerk)/total class size [C/O 2014 stats] (difference)
UChi: 83% [76%] (+7)
CLS: 79% [79%] (0)
SLS: 78% [75%] (+3)
Penn: 77% [78%] (-1)
Duke: 75% [70%] (+5)
Yale: 72% [60%] (+12)
HLS: 71% [71%] (0)
UVA: 70% [68%] (+2)
NU: 69% [65%] (+4)
NYU: 67% [71%] (-4)
Cornell: 67% [74%] (-7)
Mich: 61% [54%] (+7)
UC Berk: 56% [62%] (-6)
Vandy: 47%
UCLA: 45%
GULC: 44% [48%] (-4)
UT: 42%
Boston C: 41%
Notre Dame: 40%
USC: 38%
GW: 35%
Fordham: 35%
Boston U: 35%
WUSTL: 34%
Emory: 30%
Illinois: 29%
UC Irvine- 28%
UNC: 27%
W&M: 25%
SMU: 24%
Minnesota: 24%
W&L: 23%
UC Hastings: 22%
Kentucky: 21%
Iowa: 21%
Ohio State: 21%
U of Washington: 20%
Georgia: 20%
Indiana: 19%
Tulane: 19%
Tennessee: 19%
Houston: 18%
WVU: 18%
Cardozo: 18%
Temple: 17%
San Diego: 17%
SLU: 16%
Davis: 16%
AmericanU: 15%
Villanova: 14%
Florida: 14%
Pitt: 14%
Arizona: 13%
Loyola-Chicago: 13%
University of Kansas: 13%
UConn: 13%
Wake Forest: 12%
Duquesne: 12%
Colorado: 12%
Albany: 12%
Chicago-Kent: 12%
South Carolina: 12%
Maryland: 11%
Pepperdine: 11%
Miami: 11%
ASU: 11%
FSU: 10%
Catholic U: 10%
Stetson: 10%
Richmond: 10%

*Firm size 101+ attorneys

T14 Employment Trend
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Percentage and number of T14 graduates unemployed, in school-funded positions, deferred starting dates, and unknown employment status:
Yale-8.45% (18)
Harvard-6.28% (37)
Stanford-5.13% (10)
Columbia-8.72% (36)
Chicago-7.14% (14)
NYU-8.45% (41)
Penn-5.69% (14)
UVA-10.90% (40)
Berkeley-10.79% (30)
Michigan-9.6% (34)
Duke-5.77% (12)
Northwestern-10.07% (29)
Cornell-8.2% (15)
GeorgeTTTown-21.83% (148)

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:43 am
by hunt godlink
Tag.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:37 am
by zot1
So aside from 100% employment rate, what is considered a good rate?

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:49 am
by Today
Villanova has added 2015 employment numbers.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:54 am
by poptart123
It's really convenient that a lot of deposit deadlines happen before these deadlines.. Would be nice to see how the employment trend continued more recently at different schools with more data.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:56 am
by Kummel
zot1 wrote:So aside from 100% employment rate, what is considered a good rate?


I assume that including the fact that not every single person is going to be able to be contacted/tracked, a few go into business, a few go to get PhDs, some just become stay at home parents because they want to, as close to 90% is probably a "good rate"

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:58 am
by zot1
And what point does it become a bad rate making the school a bad investment? 85%? 80%? 75%? 65%?

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:03 am
by zot1
Hastings posting a 65% employment rate with salary. Honestly, no one should be counted as employed if they do not have a salary. That's just volunteer work, not employment.

Villanova has a similar rate. I know both schools are not top, but if this is a trend, it is not a very good one.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:08 am
by Today
George Washington #s are up.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:11 am
by zot1
Today wrote:George Washington #s are up.


66% bar passage required. Yikes.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:13 am
by zot1
zot1 wrote:
Today wrote:George Washington #s are up.


66% bar passage required. Yikes.


Just last year their rate for bar passage required was 80%. However, they had over 70 school funded positions contributing to that rate compared to 25 for the class of '15.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:15 am
by Today
zot1 wrote:
Today wrote:George Washington #s are up.


66% bar passage required. Yikes.


That is a pretty impressive drop, doubly so due to the reduced class size.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:18 am
by Biglaw1990
35.48% of GW's Class of 2015 is working at a firm with 100+ attorneys or clerking for a federal judge.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:21 am
by zot1
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I really hope 0Ls come and look at this thread before going to law school.

It is not too late to back out!

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:31 am
by generaltoast
Fordham data is up. Looks about the same as last year.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:34 am
by zot1
Can y'all also post the actual employment rate?

Fordham: 68% bar passage required.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:04 pm
by adil91
Where are you guys finding this info?

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:15 pm
by misterjames
Biglaw1990 wrote:35.48% of GW's Class of 2015 is working at a firm with 100+ attorneys or clerking for a federal judge.


is that 35% of the total class or 35% of the people that are actually employed?

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:19 pm
by Anonymous User
adil91 wrote:Where are you guys finding this info?

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:23 pm
by kellyfrost
Where can I find this info?

I want to look up Wyoming, Liberty, and Montana.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:33 pm
by zot1
Google "[law school name] employment statistics." Some schools have them updated and some don't.

Given that no 0Ls should be posting here, I'm a little concerned that people haven't done this before. It was one of the things I did as a prospective students when weighing my options.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:35 pm
by zot1
I did look up Wyoming: 63%.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:49 pm
by Biglaw1990
misterjames wrote:
Biglaw1990 wrote:35.48% of GW's Class of 2015 is working at a firm with 100+ attorneys or clerking for a federal judge.


is that 35% of the total class or 35% of the people that are actually employed?

Total class

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:52 pm
by Biglaw1990
35.37% of Fordham's Class of 2015 is working at a firm with 100+ attorneys or clerking for a federal judge.

Re: Class of 2015 Employment Statistics by School

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:58 pm
by Biglaw1990
80% of Stanford's Class of 2015 is working at a firm with 100+ attorneys or clerking for a federal judge