Roundhill wrote: zot1 wrote: DCfilterDC wrote:
Okay, I was not originally part of this anti-GULC circlejerk, but if I'm reading this right, nearly 20% of last year's grads were unemployed/underemployed, and on top of that 14% were in school funded positions? So basically 1/3 of GULC grads didn't have legitimate employment 10 months after graduation?
Am I missing something here?
Looks like it. That's pretty bad.
A large chunk of that 1/3 of the class probably paid sticker too; as someone pointed out, GULC is not very generous when it comes to scholarships
Nah, that hasn't been accurate for at least a few years. Most folks I know were able to get a reasonable amount of money out of GULC; the school just isn't forthcoming about scholarship money until you ask for it.
I think the increase in transfers is due in large part to the more recent increase in available scholarship money, so it's just a gigantic exercise in juking the stats: throw more money at applicants to boost incoming medians; pull in unconscionable amounts of transfers to pay sticker and subsidize the scholarships of the next incoming class. From what I can tell, most of the transfers seem to do fine for post grad employment, since they were probably high-achieving to begin with, so the ones really taking it on the chin are the kids who just squeak by to get into the school (probably with little merit aid, if any), then perform poorly in 1L and fail to land decent jobs. GULC is not serving the bottom half of the class very well at all.
The thing to remember with GULC—and I'll get flamed for this, because this board can't see past its biglaw blinders—the BL+FC numbers don't tell the whole story. Beyond just the general PI-focus of a larger percentage of the class (in line with Berkeley, which has similarly low BL #'s) GULC puts way more people into government jobs than any other school, and considering how many of those are BigFed jobs, those are excellent outcomes. We do plenty of PI as well, though it's harder to quantify the quality of those jobs. The only truly damning numbers in the GULC camp are the decrease in full time JD-required jobs overall, and the expanding class size, which is the reason so many kids get left behind.