Tls2016 wrote: jbagelboy wrote: rpupkin wrote: jbagelboy wrote:
you'd be in the exact same place you are now
TheProsecutor wrote:I turned down the Hamilton to go to one of H/Y/S when I was 22. I graduated with well into six figures of debt. I didn't come from money so I had to pay it all back myself. I clerked, and the year I clerked it was tough financially, but overall I was able to pay back my loans at the end of my fourth year practicing. Overall, I am happy I turned down the Hamilton and would have done so again if I had to make the choice again. I think, however, if I were married, had kids, or older at the time, I probably would've taken the Hamilton. You seem to be a recent graduate and have a long time to practice law, if you desire. I am not telling you what to do and I don't have an opinion on what you should do. I'm just telling you that if you decide to go to Harvard, you'll probably be ok.
except far wealthier with a fraction of that debt or stress over the years. but of course we all become comfortable with our decisions. I don't see "you'd be 'OK' going to X school" as a ringing endorsement when there's another 'better than OK' option.
I'm not sure how you can be so confident of the bolded. Although I think taking CLS with the Hamilton is the easy call here, and although I think folks are generally foolish to turn down $$$ at "lower T14s" for HYS, I'm not sure if I end up in my current job (which I generally like) if I went to CLS instead of where I chose to attend law school. It's one thing to say that lots of extra debt isn't worth a slight updside. It's another thing to say that everything will be EXACTLY THE SAME if you go to CLS.
I don't think everything will be exactly the same. But 3rd or 4th year associate at a big firm, maybe with a year of clerking between, describes the majority of graduates from both schools. I also don't think CLS would be described as a "lower T14". Outcomes between H and C (both statistically and descriptively) are far more similar than between, say, C and Michigan. I'm not digging anyone's jobs, quite the opposite - these schools do well for their students.
I'm willing to bet that the prosecutor poster works with CLS grads at the same firm and the same level. It's the most common path.
Also I had no debt and I'm certain I have substantially more assets than the prosecutor poster. I'm going into a completely different field and I don't have to worry about money.
I *likely* wouldn't have gotten this firm had I not gone where I went (although there are some CLS grads at the firm) and I think this firm puts associates at a competitive advantage for unique positions even outside of the law. Also, clerking is still pretty difficult feat even at the top schools, and my school made the process much easier, which was important to me.
Also, I wouldn't trust the advice of a person who says they have substantially more assets than someone they've never met. It's just an unnecessary statement intended to make you feel as if this person's decision was superior to the decision I made. Its not provable. In any event, even if that were true, and I'm not sure it is, I have no debt now and have decades to amass more wealth as I'm barely past 30.
Again, I don't care what decision the OP makes, but I'm pretty happy with having one of HYS on my resume, I think that it has helped immeasurably in my career, and I continue to think it will be an asset in my career going forward. If the OP takes the Hamilton, that's wonderful as well and a great decision.