Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

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Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Jaydee » Tue May 19, 2015 10:37 pm

I am a non-trad, with guaranteed employment working/partnering in a small firm. I have no desire to work for a firm. Should I just pick the cheapest option or pay 150k for a somewhat better pedigree?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby usn26 » Tue May 19, 2015 10:42 pm

Follow the money.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby ballcaps » Tue May 19, 2015 10:50 pm

Jaydee wrote:...guaranteed employment working/partnering in a small firm. I have no desire to work for a firm.

huh?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Jaydee » Tue May 19, 2015 11:11 pm

ballcaps wrote:
Jaydee wrote:...guaranteed employment working/partnering in a small firm. I have no desire to work for a firm.

huh?

I should clarify: I have no desire working for a LARGE law firm (i.e. biglaw, midlaw, insurance, etc)
Not to give too much details, but I'm in my 40s with no debt/decent money saved/rental properties, etc. The guaranteed employment would be helping out my gf/wife/significant other. She has a solo practice (immigration, divorce, etc). She's somewhat busy--45-60 hour weeks. She needs help/wants to cut down her hours to spend with our child....

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby BigZuck » Wed May 20, 2015 12:11 am

I guess I'm curious why you would even contemplate the more expensive option at all?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby JohannDeMann » Wed May 20, 2015 12:15 am

Take the free school.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Wed May 20, 2015 1:44 am

BigZuck wrote:I guess I'm curious why you would even contemplate the more expensive option at all?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Jaydee » Wed May 20, 2015 7:07 am

BigZuck wrote:I guess I'm curious why you would even contemplate the more expensive option at all?

There is a large gap in the rankings between Fordham and CUNY/NYLS. I'm just wondering if the better name is worth the premium. Maybe down the road for marketing purposes? Will the Fordham JD get me more clients/make clients feel more comfortable hiring me?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby usn26 » Wed May 20, 2015 7:24 am

Jaydee wrote:
BigZuck wrote:I guess I'm curious why you would even contemplate the more expensive option at all?

There is a large gap in the rankings between Fordham and CUNY/NYLS. I'm just wondering if the better name is worth the premium. Maybe down the road for marketing purposes? Will the Fordham JD get me more clients/make clients feel more comfortable hiring me?


Thank God you came to TLS

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby TasmanianToucan » Wed May 20, 2015 9:10 am

Your wife's established practice will bring you clients. Don't pay 150 grand for a job you know you can have for free.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby MurdockLLP » Wed May 20, 2015 9:21 am

usn26 wrote: Thank God you came to TLS


Unless your client is a major corporation, the average client could care less about where you went to school. Most people in the New York market still think that St. John's has an excellent law program and that New York Law School is NYU. Save yourself the money and go with the free option.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Blueberrypie » Wed May 20, 2015 9:33 am

MurdockLLP wrote:
usn26 wrote: Thank God you came to TLS


Unless your client is a major corporation, the average client could care less about where you went to school. Most people in the New York market still think that St. John's has an excellent law program and that New York Law School is NYU. Save yourself the money and go with the free option.



OMG this is so true. I know NYU law students get mildly upset. I mean the names are way too close. It is severely misleading at a few quick glances. I remember when I first started working at a law firm a year ago. A paralegal told me she attends NY Law. I automatically assumed NYU. I mean NYU is NYL technically.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby AReasonableMan » Thu May 21, 2015 1:00 pm

If you aren't married then you might want to create a contract that the firm is joint property if you're making major life decisions based on this.

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby timbs4339 » Fri May 22, 2015 1:33 pm

Fordham at 150K would literally be an insane option. That's money that is going to be going out of shared resources that could be going into a firm that is going to operate on low margins anyway. You're a lawyer dealing with middle or lower net worth individuals- they think any lawyer is prestigious so log as you are doing decent work.

Of the two sane choices, what are the stips?

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby Jaydee » Fri May 22, 2015 9:37 pm

COA for NYLS would be ~37k CUNY ~30K Fordham ~155K

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Re: Fordham sticker or CUNY/NYLS full ride?

Postby BigZuck » Sat May 23, 2015 12:06 pm

Jaydee wrote:COA for NYLS would be ~37k CUNY ~30K Fordham ~155K

And once again:
BigZuck wrote:I guess I'm curious why you would even contemplate the more expensive option at all?

Seriously, don't go to Fordham. It's a non-starter.




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