177 Cornell vs.75 NYU vs.40 CLS vs.15 Harvard vs.90/120 Penn

(Rankings, Profiles, Tuition, Student Life, . . . )

Which one

Cornell
18
64%
Columbia
2
7%
NYU
1
4%
Harvard
3
11%
Penn
4
14%
 
Total votes: 28

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177 Cornell vs.75 NYU vs.40 CLS vs.15 Harvard vs.90/120 Penn

Postby ALawStudent » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:00 pm

Which do you think I should take? I prefer to stay in NYC, but that Cornell money is a pretty sizable amount to turn down. I tried renegotiating with NYU, but that failed. I have yet to try using the NYU offer with Columbia, but I'm not sure it will do anything, we'll see.

Ithaca is really annoying, but is it worth it?
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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby quiver » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:03 pm

In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT

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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby 03152016 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 pm

impressed you managed to get nyu to offer 400 times more than cornell

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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby CaptainJapan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:13 pm

Brut wrote:impressed you managed to get nyu to offer 400 times more than cornell



this is one of those times your tar perfectly punctuates your post

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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby kingpin101 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:14 pm

ALawStudent wrote:Which do you think I should take? I prefer to stay in NYC, but that Cornell money is a pretty sizable amount to turn down. I tried renegotiating with NYU, but that failed. I have yet to try using the NYU offer with Columbia, but I'm not sure it will do anything, we'll see.

Ithaca is really annoying, but is it worth it?

Have you even lived in Ithaca?

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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby ALawStudent » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:20 pm

quiver wrote:
In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT


-Columbia, Harvard, Cornell, and NYU
-COA, Probably 200K Columbia, 230K Harvard, 63K Cornell, 165K at NYU. I expect my parent will cover living, so debt would be that minus 60K.
-From NYC, want to work in NYC
-Big law, then unknown.
-173/4.1
-Once

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby arklaw13 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:23 pm

Cornell for nearly free when you want NYC biglaw is about as open and shut as it could be.

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Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia

Postby 03152016 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:25 pm

ALawStudent wrote:
quiver wrote:
In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT


-Columbia, Harvard, Cornell, and NYU
-COA, Probably 200K Columbia, 230K Harvard, 63K Cornell, 165K at NYU. I expect my parent will cover living, so debt would be that minus 60K.
-From NYC, want to work in NYC
-Big law, then unknown.
-173/4.1
-Once

oh dear. no, those numbers will be higher. at least for cls, hls, and nyu
use this: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=225195

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby quiver » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:46 pm

arklaw13 wrote:Cornell for nearly free when you want NYC biglaw is about as open and shut as it could be.

100% this.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:56 pm

if your parents are covering COL youll likely graduate cornell with money in the bank

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby 03152016 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:04 pm

lol anyone voting hls sticker vs full ride cornell for nyc biglaw should explain themselves itt

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:05 pm

Brut wrote:lol anyone voting hls sticker vs full ride cornell for nyc biglaw should explain themselves itt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGy_asxL2U

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby jingosaur » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:59 pm

Cornell is a damn good school. Damn good.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby ALawStudent » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:36 am

Well I also have an established social group in NYC. I know no one at Cornell.

And I'm worried about prestige a little. But it's hard to say no to that money if I'm not at least getting 100K from NYU or Columbia.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby kingpin101 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:14 am

ALawStudent wrote:Well I also have an established social group in NYC.
which you can contact after three years at Ithaca.

ALawStudent wrote:And I'm worried about prestige a little.
You shouldn't.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby Rigo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:25 am

100% Cornell.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:11 am

Email Charles DeRubeis just the following: is that the best you can do?

Seriously, you're getting scammed by NYU and CLS with those numbers. And H at sticker is out of the question. You should have a half ride at minimum, probably $100k+. It's probably clear to fin aid that you come from money, but driven by merit alone you should be seeing a lot more from a greater selection of schools.

While Cornell is a great school, I do understand some of the hesitation since with a 173/4.1 you're also eligible for a Levy, Mordecai, Vanderbilt, Butler.

As everyone's suggested, clearly it would be error to give up the full ride for chump change just to stay in the city. But the reality is you should have more attractive offers -- or something like full tuition at Penn -- so I'd keep pushing.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby FloridaCoastalorbust » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:19 am

cornell easily. though i'd go to harvard cuz i'm an idiot.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby Pragmatic Gun » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:48 am

You will make friends at whatever law school you go to if you're worried about having social circle. Furthermore, I don't think it is a betrayal if you leave your social circle for Ithaca.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby elterrible78 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:54 am

Cornell, and this is one of the easiest poll questions I have ever seen on this site. Although for a lot of people social life is important during law school, I doubt it should be many people's top priority and, as others have said, you'll make plenty of friends at Cornell. In the long run, you'll just end up with a larger group of friends and contacts (assuming your NYC people don't bail on you for going to Ithaca, and if they do, they weren't your friends). If you want to do big law in NYC, you'd be insane to pay so much more for CLS or NYU, and I don't think Harvard is even in the running here.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby arewevoting » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:04 am

Cornell, no question.

I understand your hesitations about Ithaca, but Collegetown is actually kind of cool, cool enough for you to find some friends and fun when you need to. Plus the geography or whatever you want to call it really is pretty amazing. It's obviously not NYC, but it appears you'll be living there the rest of your life anyway (and likely both summers in law school). Coming from NYC the weather should be a non-factor, or at least negligible.

Congrats on the great offer!

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby ALawStudent » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:08 pm

UPDATE: Penn offered me a potential 90,000 merit after offering 30,000 in need based, not sure if the merit will destroy need based, but what do you think of this vs. Cornell?

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby kingpin101 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:10 pm

If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby ALawStudent » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:23 pm

kingpin101 wrote:If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.


Do you know if Penn need-based aid is separate from merit aid?

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Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard

Postby Rigo » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:27 pm

ALawStudent wrote:
kingpin101 wrote:If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.

Do you know if Penn need-based aid is separate from merit aid?

Yes.




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