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Winter is Coming wrote:For realz?
An understanding of the ceiling of opportunity at Cornell.Winter is Coming wrote:Dude c'mon of course the number one student at any T14 will have basically the same options as the top of the class at HYS and better options then the students at median there. If anything it'll help because of the small class size at Cornell it may be easier to find professors/deans who are really willing to go to bat for you.
Also the selectivity between the things you mentioned is wildly different. SCOTUS clerk is not something anyone should think about until they are at the top of their class.
V50 is obviously an attainable goal from any of the T14.
What are you looking for here?
My impression is that ceilings aren't really an issue for the top student at any T14. Differences in employment outcomes become more significant the further down you are in your class (e.g. median at Cornell has nowhere near the same opportunities as median at YHS). But if you are literally number 1 at Cornell you can pretty much write your own ticket.davidcasaletto wrote:An understanding of the ceiling of opportunity at Cornell.Winter is Coming wrote:Dude c'mon of course the number one student at any T14 will have basically the same options as the top of the class at HYS and better options then the students at median there. If anything it'll help because of the small class size at Cornell it may be easier to find professors/deans who are really willing to go to bat for you.
Also the selectivity between the things you mentioned is wildly different. SCOTUS clerk is not something anyone should think about until they are at the top of their class.
V50 is obviously an attainable goal from any of the T14.
What are you looking for here?
what you're actually asking is: are there any opportunities available exclusively to HYS kids?davidcasaletto wrote:An understanding of the ceiling of opportunity at Cornell.Winter is Coming wrote:Dude c'mon of course the number one student at any T14 will have basically the same options as the top of the class at HYS and better options then the students at median there. If anything it'll help because of the small class size at Cornell it may be easier to find professors/deans who are really willing to go to bat for you.
Also the selectivity between the things you mentioned is wildly different. SCOTUS clerk is not something anyone should think about until they are at the top of their class.
V50 is obviously an attainable goal from any of the T14.
What are you looking for here?
;]envisciguy wrote:The #1 person at Cornell will have pretty much any opportunities they want, provided there's not something terribly wrong with them.
OP, I REALLY hope you're not asking this because you're planning on being #1 in your class, though I'm fairly certain you are.
You should start preparing your SCOTUS clerkship applications now. I heard Justice Kagan favors applicants with ESP.davidcasaletto wrote:An understanding of the ceiling of opportunity at Cornell.Winter is Coming wrote:Dude c'mon of course the number one student at any T14 will have basically the same options as the top of the class at HYS and better options then the students at median there. If anything it'll help because of the small class size at Cornell it may be easier to find professors/deans who are really willing to go to bat for you.
Also the selectivity between the things you mentioned is wildly different. SCOTUS clerk is not something anyone should think about until they are at the top of their class.
V50 is obviously an attainable goal from any of the T14.
What are you looking for here?
There is little-to-no ceiling. The #1 student at Cornell will be competitive for the vast majority of clerkships (including for most feeders), as well as just about all other highly competitive positions. There are a very select few judges/employers who hire just from HYS and occasionally one or two other schools (like Alshuler Berzon -- HYS + Berkeley, I believe) that you probably won't have a shot at. But we're talking really just exceptions to the general rule.davidcasaletto wrote:An understanding of the ceiling of opportunity at Cornell.Winter is Coming wrote:Dude c'mon of course the number one student at any T14 will have basically the same options as the top of the class at HYS and better options then the students at median there. If anything it'll help because of the small class size at Cornell it may be easier to find professors/deans who are really willing to go to bat for you.
Also the selectivity between the things you mentioned is wildly different. SCOTUS clerk is not something anyone should think about until they are at the top of their class.
V50 is obviously an attainable goal from any of the T14.
What are you looking for here?
I wouldn't want to transfer because I got a very good scholarship (to me) for Cornell, and from my understanding transfer scholarships are rare and not as substantial..If I can reach competitive levels with the t6 by being top of the class at Cornell then I'd prefer to stay here for 13k a year instead of 50k at NYU...why do people transfer?Winter is Coming wrote:All joking aside our transfer out situation is kind of weird. There are a few H kids and sometimes Y, but a surprising amount of medianish kids transfer to NYU. I guess some people really do hate Ithaca and if you're not giving up money here, might as well live your life.
You are falsely assuming that they are making a logic choice.davidcasaletto wrote:I wouldn't want to transfer because I got a very good scholarship (to me) for Cornell, and from my understanding transfer scholarships are rare and not as substantial..If I can reach competitive levels with the t6 by being top of the class at Cornell then I'd prefer to stay here for 13k a year instead of 50k at NYU...why do people transfer?Winter is Coming wrote:All joking aside our transfer out situation is kind of weird. There are a few H kids and sometimes Y, but a surprising amount of medianish kids transfer to NYU. I guess some people really do hate Ithaca and if you're not giving up money here, might as well live your life.
if they're paying sticker at bothdavidcasaletto wrote:I wouldn't want to transfer because I got a very good scholarship (to me) for Cornell, and from my understanding transfer scholarships are rare and not as substantial..If I can reach competitive levels with the t6 by being top of the class at Cornell then I'd prefer to stay here for 13k a year instead of 50k at NYU...why do people transfer?Winter is Coming wrote:All joking aside our transfer out situation is kind of weird. There are a few H kids and sometimes Y, but a surprising amount of medianish kids transfer to NYU. I guess some people really do hate Ithaca and if you're not giving up money here, might as well live your life.