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Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:43 pm
by jawaharlaw nehru
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Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:47 pm
by rpupkin
Your question has already been asked on here multiple times. You know what everyone is going to say.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:49 pm
by UnicornHunter
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Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:56 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:02 pm
by kingpin101
You already know what everyone is going to say. Don't waste your good fortune.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:25 pm
by Atmosphere
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.
Is there a thread that shows the logistics on how it comes out to 3k/month for 3 years?

But yeah OP, Dillard

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:35 pm
by chuckbass
Atmosphere wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.
Is there a thread that shows the logistics on how it comes out to 3k/month for 3 years?

But yeah OP, Dillard
There is math that shows this, yes :roll:

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:45 pm
by Atmosphere
scottidsntknow wrote:
Atmosphere wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.
Is there a thread that shows the logistics on how it comes out to 3k/month for 3 years?

But yeah OP, Dillard
There is math that shows this, yes :roll:
Hahah sorry, I'm scarily bad at math. Humor me, 300k COA ~~> 3k/month? :oops:

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:46 pm
by WeeBey
scottidsntknow wrote:
Atmosphere wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.
Is there a thread that shows the logistics on how it comes out to 3k/month for 3 years?

But yeah OP, Dillard
There is math that shows this, yes :roll:
I think they meant 3k for 10 years lol. Sticker is about 300k. 3k * 36 months is 108k.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:53 pm
by chuckbass
Oh sorry I didn't read this I assumed it said for 10 years and that works out so I was a bit confused, sorry. Either way obviously OP should just take the money.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:06 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Sorry meant to type 10 years.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:11 am
by jbagelboy
I'd go with the Dillard.

University of Virginia Law is perfectly reputable for any kind of national political position you'd seek out (or regional if the region is mid-Atlantic). There are probably as many Virginia alumnus working in DC as Harvard, taking into account per capita considerations.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:13 am
by WeeBey
Take the Dilliard. Then you'll at least get to ball out with your big law salary. You could buy a house/condo and put 4k towards your mortgage instead of 3k on loans and 2k towards rents like your friends in biglaw and have nothing to show for it after 5 years.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:45 am
by Atmosphere
WeeBey wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:
Atmosphere wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:Your result will likely be the same from either school, DC or NYC biglaw. One is free and one will require you to make 3k loan payments for three years. Lots of people who get into Harvard don't get T14 full rides, you were one of the lucky ones.
Is there a thread that shows the logistics on how it comes out to 3k/month for 3 years?

But yeah OP, Dillard
There is math that shows this, yes :roll:
I think they meant 3k for 10 years lol. Sticker is about 300k. 3k * 36 months is 108k.
Haha oh good, I thought I was losing it.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:48 pm
by Innovative
I would never advise anyone to take more debt than they are confortable with. And, your decision calculus is likely to change once your see what your aid package is. You have two very good options. Plenty of people at HLS made a similar decision, but I bet plenty of very successful and happy people made the decision to take the money and run. HLS isn't a bad investment, and you'll have the opportunity to pay off your debt if you go. But, this is another thread where TLS can't really tell you what you should do, or what objectively is best.

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:50 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Innovative wrote:I would never advise anyone to take more debt than they are confortable with. And, your decision calculus is likely to change once your see what your aid package is. You have two very good options. Plenty of people at HLS made a similar decision, but I bet plenty of very successful and happy people made the decision to take the money and run. HLS isn't a bad investment, and you'll have the opportunity to pay off your debt if you go. But, this is another thread where TLS can't really tell you what you should do, or what objectively is best.
good input

Re: Dillard vs Harvard

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:22 pm
by gnomgnomuch
It's not like UVA is a BAD option if you want to go into politics... Sure, for pure political connections you obviously can't beat Harvard, but there is never any kind of certainty in whether or not you'll get into politics.

This is how I view it:

I'll be either median (likely outcome) at H or UVA. At both schools I'll likely get a big-law gig. At H I'll have more security for a job but also roughly 300k (without interest accruing) in debt, which will take me 5-8 years to pay off in big-law hell, without the possibility of even living it up because debt. BUT, I'll have that awesome Harvard prestige.

At UVA you'll have a full ride + that named scholarship (just something to put on your resume to check a box, but you'll have it.) You'll graduate with say roughly 50k in COL debt + 30 from undergrad. You'll pay of that 100k or so (interest) in 2-4 years of relatively low payments in big-law. You'll be way less stressed over debt, so you wont feel the pressure to work 110 hours a week or else you'll lose your job. Plus, when you get your debt down to whatever level you're comfortable with, you can start looking for exit options.

Don't forget, the big-law attrition rate is ridiculously high and a lot of it is self attrition, not people getting fired. At H you might be forced to stay because of debt, at UVA you'll be able to leave whenever you want to basically.

After a while you could transition into gov work or basically whatever you want, because who is going to look down at a UVA dillard scholar?

Basically, take UVA, because you're missing out on some prestige and options for wayyyy less stress down the line.

This changes a bit when it comes to clerkships and big-fed, but I still don't think that H is worth 300k+ over UVA for those opportunities.