Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

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Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby spsc9 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:20 am

In what scenario does is make sense to:

1. Attend Harvard at sticker price over a Rubenstein at UChi(full-tuition + 15k stipend)

or

2. Attend Stanford at sticker price over a Rubenstein at UChi (full-tuition + 15k stipend)


Parents make enough for me to get around $0.00 in grant money, but thanks to their own student loans ($500k+) and terrible business decisions, are willing and able to contribute somewhere between $0 and $0 to my education.

I am looking for a federal clerkship, a few years in big law (hopefully in Los Angeles), and then transition to ADA/AUSA/Politics. Initial interest in academia.

20k in undergrad debt. I'm single and tend to err on the side of frugality.
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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby downbeat14 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:23 am

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby Mullens » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:31 am

1. Never

2. Never

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby bearsfan23 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:38 am

Please don't come to Chicago.

Go to Harvard

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby spsc9 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:39 am

bearsfan23 wrote:Please don't come to Chicago.

Go to Harvard


On what basis?

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby bearsfan23 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:48 am

spsc9 wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:Please don't come to Chicago.

Go to Harvard


On what basis?


You seem insufferable and I don't want you at my school.

You also seem embarassed that Chicago is a "lesser school" than Harvard. And for some reason you either think employers give a fuck about a scholarship or think they look at Harvard as "better" than Chicago. Harvard has a 5-6% edge in clerkships, that's it. They've never had any other employment advantage over Chicago, and if you can't get hired out of Chicago, there's no reason to think having Harvard on your resume would make things any different.

So, do yourself a favor and take the lay prestige/political weight of Harvard. I'm sure its worth $300k more

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby spsc9 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:00 am

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby BiglawAssociate » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:50 am

I think the more important question is - how do your parents still have student loans? Aren't they like 60? When my parents went to school, tuition was like 700 bucks a year, if that.

But yeah, take the scholarship because you're likely going to hate practicing biglaw/being a prosecutor and also won't make it in politics (since you're not WASP upper class apparently).

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby star fox » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:53 am

obviously take the rubi.

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby Helioze » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:07 am

OP asked 4 scenarios so thats what I'm gonna do!

Scenario 1
You have rich AF significant other who is attending Stanford/Harvard. You are also a gold digger. You don't give a shit about being employed after school is done because of said rich spouse/GF/BF


Scenario 2
You have a medical condition where if it gets below freezing outside you die, regardless of whether or not you are currently warm.
You go to Stanford.


Scenario 3
You have communicated with aliens, and their cabal only recruits from H/S, you want to be in the extraterrestrial cabal, so obviously you pick H/S. (measly dollar debts are of no consequence when compared to your future salary measured in Galactic Credits)

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:14 am

Learn from your parents

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Re: Harvard/Stanford vs. Rubenstein Scenario

Postby Instinctive » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:14 pm

Source: I turned down the Ruby (originally for Yale, but now at Stanford).

I think you need a really good reason to do so. (For me, it was a very clear career path best suited from Stanford, and more easily done from Yale, and both places I was into the JD/MBA program, whereas Booth didn't admit me). Another example of a "really good reason": Stanford because you are incredibly passionate about environmental law and would never be happy doing anything else.


Failing something like that (which, to me, you do not appear to have), the Ruby is perhaps the best outcome in the law school application process. Take it. Take it and be super happy.


Side note: I wouldn't even consider Harvard (I told them I wouldn't be attending as soon as I was offered the Ruby because they simply don't seem to offer any real advantage placement wise over CCN). This is between the Ruby and Stanford.




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