jbagelboy wrote:michlaw wrote:jbagelboy wrote:eph wrote:Stanford, particularly so when it is even money. There is nothing from Columbia that you can't get from Stanford. There are some things from Stanford you can't get from Columbia. If you come back east you are a bit of a special snowflake since something like 80% of Stanford stays out west. The weather, the change of pace, the smaller class size. I know and appreciate the allure of NYC but you can work there as a summer and after you graduate. Given the competitiveness of Columbia you will never get out of the library anyway so it won't matter where you are.
Do not imo underestimate the stark differences in grading systems. Good luck. Both are great choices.
The competitiveness of Columbia? Lol, what a joke . People say the weirdest shit on this website
I'm curious. If Stanford has a system where you might be able to identify the top 20% and then there is the rest, and they essentially give no low passes, and Columbia has a forced curved letter grade system where inevitably 25% of the class will be in the bottom 25% of the class, even though no one thinks it will be them, then wouldn't the competition for grades be more fierce at Columbia? Maybe I don't understand properly the grading system at Columbia. I am aware there are people on both sides of the argument of whether the systems at HYS are preferable or not but still where there are grades is there not competition? And as the highest ranked school that gives grades would not the completion be the greatest?
Strawmaning me a bit. I'm sure at Stanford there's less explicit competition for good grades, but the idea that CLS students have this particularly competitive environment is utterly false. People are incredibly social and even fuck the library. People are ambitious at both schools and that creates a certain atmosphere, but its not worse at CLS than anywhere else.
Not clever enough to be a straw-man. But since you can't be in the bottom 25% of Stanford and you can at Columbia isn't that a real factor to consider? They have to work harder to figure out who they don't want to hire from Stanford, it can't be reduced to a number. HYS might be questioned for their systems but they do have some undeniable advantages and imo when considering C vs HYS that should be a consideration.
I am sure there is a wonderfully supportive and collegial environment at Columbia. Coupling in the library well I won't touch that one.