2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

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2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby KM2016 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:45 pm

They're officially out.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

1. Yale
2. Harvard
2. Stanford (+1)
4. Columbia
4. Chicago
6. NYU
7. Penn
8. Duke (+2)
8. Berkeley (+1)
8. UVA
11. Michigan (-1)
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. GULC (-1)
15. Texas
16. UCLA
17. Vanderbilt (-1)
18. Wash U
19. Emory
20. Minnesota
20. USC
22. George Washington University (-2)
22. University of Alabama (+1)
22. University of Iowa (+5)
22. University of Notre Dame (+4)
26. Arizona State University (+5)
26. Boston University (+1)
28. University of Washington (-4)
29. William & Mary (-5)
30. University of California-Irvine (NR)
31. University of California-Davis (+5)
31. University of Georgia (-2)
31. University of Wisconsin-Madison
34. Boston College (+2)
34. BYU (+2)
34. Fordham (+2)
34. Indiana University-Bloomington (-5)
34. Ohio State University (-3)
34. University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (-3)
40. University of Colorado (+3)
41. University of Illinois (-1)
42. George Mason University (+4)
42. University of Arizona (-2)
42. University of Utah (+7)
42. Washington and Lee (+1)
46. Southern Methodist University (-4)
47. University of Florida (+2)
47. University of Maryland (-1)
47. Wake Forest University (-16)
50. Florida State University (-5)
50. Tulane University (-4)
52. Pepperdine University (+2)
52. Temple University (+9)
52. University of Richmond (-1)
52. University of Tennessee-Knoxville (+20)
56. Baylor University (-5)
56. Georgia State University (+8)
56. University of Nebraska-Lincoln (-2)
59. Case Western University (+5)
59. University of California-Hastings (-5)
59. University of Houston (-1)
59. University of Missouri (+5)
63. Seton Hall University (+5)
63. University of Connecticut (-9)
63. University of Kentucky (-5)
63. University of Miami (-2)
67. University of Denver (+1)
67. University of Kansas (+1)
67. UNLV (+16)
67. University of Oklahoma (-9)
71. American University (+1)
71. Penn State University (Dickinson) (-20)
71. University of New Mexico (+1)
71. University of San Diego (+8)
75. Loyola Marymount University (CA) (+12)
75. University of Arkansas-Fayetteville (-14)
75. Yeshiva University (Cardozo) (-11)
78. Brooklyn Law School (+5)
78. Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent) (-6)
78. Loyola University Chicago (-10)
78. University of Pittsburgh (+3)
82. St. John’s University (+25)
82. University of Cincinnati (-3)
82. University of Hawaii (+18)
82. University of Oregon (+18)
82. University of Tulsa (-10)
87. Northeastern University (+6)
87. Rutgers (Newark) (-4)
87. St. Louis University (+6)
87. SUNY Buffalo Law School (+13)
87. Syracuse University (+20)
87. University of New Hampshire (+6)
87. Villanova University (+6)
94. Lewis & Clark College (-22)
94. LSU (-22)
94. Michigan State University (-7)
94. Santa Clara University (+13)
94. University of Louisville (-7)
94. University of Mississippi (+10)
94. University of South Carolina (-1)
94. West Virginia University (-11)
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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby baal hadad » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:48 pm

Where are the DROVES going?

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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby runthetrap1990 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:58 pm

baal hadad wrote:Where are the DROVES going?


UCI

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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby KM2016 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:00 am

baal hadad wrote:Where are the DROVES going?


Not Michigan anymore lol

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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby Nebby » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:01 am

OP post the T20 in the OP.

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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby banjo » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:25 am

Wikipedia wrote:Michigan Law School consistently ranks among the highest-rated law schools in the United States. It was ranked third in the initial U.S. News & World Report law school rankings in 1987, and is one of seven schools never to appear outside the magazine's top 10. Michigan Law is also one of the "T14" law schools, schools that have consistently ranked within the top 14 law schools since U.S. News began publishing rankings. In the 2015 U.S. News ranking, Michigan Law is ranked 10th overall, tied with Duke.[4]The 2010 Super Lawyers rankings placed Michigan as second.[5] Michigan Law is currently ranked 6th for International Law.[6] In a 2011 U.S. News "reputational ranking" of law schools by hiring partners at the nation’s top law firms, the University of Michigan Law School ranked 4th.[7]


Just edited this old Wikipedia paragraph. I didn't want any employers confusing Michigan for a T10.

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Re: USNWR 2016 Law School Rankings

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:58 am

banjo wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:Michigan Law School consistently ranks among the highest-rated law schools in the United States. It was ranked third in the initial U.S. News & World Report law school rankings in 1987, and is one of seven schools never to appear outside the magazine's top 10. Michigan Law is also one of the "T14" law schools, schools that have consistently ranked within the top 14 law schools since U.S. News began publishing rankings. In the 2015 U.S. News ranking, Michigan Law is ranked 10th overall, tied with Duke.[4]The 2010 Super Lawyers rankings placed Michigan as second.[5] Michigan Law is currently ranked 6th for International Law.[6] In a 2011 U.S. News "reputational ranking" of law schools by hiring partners at the nation’s top law firms, the University of Michigan Law School ranked 4th.[7]


Just edited this old Wikipedia paragraph. I didn't want any employers confusing Michigan for a T10.


Ouch lol

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby PDaddy » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:15 am

Irvine's ranking is right about where most people expected. I thought they would be #20-30. Their ranking at #30 is probably half-arbitrary, meaning they could have easily been placed at 25 or better, but were placed at #30 so that they would have to work their way up...earn it.

Reputation ratings should be transparent, so we can see who rates the schools and how. They are at least top-25 on hard factors.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:17 am

THIRD PAGE, PLEASE

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby pamphleteer » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:21 am

PDaddy wrote:Irvine's ranking is right about where most people expected. I thought they would be #20-30. Their ranking at #30 is probably half-arbitrary, meaning they could have easily been placed at 25 or better, but were placed at #30 so that they would have to work their way up...earn it.

Reputation ratings should be transparent, so we can see who rates the schools and how. They are at least top-25 on hard factors.


Are they really though? Who in the current top 25 do they deserve to knock off? I guess Minnesota or Alabama but no one can figure out why those schools are ranked as highly as they are and yet there they stay on a yearly basis. UCI's unemployment rate is staggering and I'm not sure how sustainable that insane federal clerkship rate is once Chemerinsky runs out of favors to call in.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby RCSOB657 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:25 am

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby PDaddy » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:33 am

pamphleteer wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Irvine's ranking is right about where most people expected. I thought they would be #20-30. Their ranking at #30 is probably half-arbitrary, meaning they could have easily been placed at 25 or better, but were placed at #30 so that they would have to work their way up...earn it.

Reputation ratings should be transparent, so we can see who rates the schools and how. They are at least top-25 on hard factors.


Are they really though? Who in the current top 25 do they deserve to knock off? I guess Minnesota or Alabama but no one can figure out why those schools are ranked as highly as they are and yet there they stay on a yearly basis. UCI's unemployment rate is staggering and I'm not sure how sustainable that insane federal clerkship rate is once Chemerinsky runs out of favors to call in.


You make several good points. UCI's employment ratings and continued ascension up the reputation ladder are the keys to its success. I doubt that it will ever go beyond top 18-20 or so in its best years. Still, I'm slightly surprised that it wasn't ranked a little higher. They really put in a lot of work and expected to start higher; this we know.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby rpupkin » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:48 am

PDaddy wrote:Irvine's ranking is right about where most people expected. I thought they would be #20-30. Their ranking at #30 is probably half-arbitrary, meaning they could have easily been placed at 25 or better, but were placed at #30 so that they would have to work their way up...earn it.

No. UCI was "placed" in the same way as all the other schools: through a largely arbitrary collection of of ratings, scores, and other numeric criteria. Yes, UCI could have easily been #25. It also could have easily been #35 or #45. Folks at USNWR are not pulling strings to make UCI "earn" its ranking. Jesus.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby starry eyed » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:32 am

I don't understand LSU dropping 22 spots. They have solid employment numbers, better than Tulane's even (In the scope of T2 ranked schools).

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby ilikebaseball » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:37 am

starry eyed wrote:I don't understand LSU dropping 22 spots. They have solid employment numbers, better than Tulane's even (In the scope of T2 ranked schools).

Does it matter that much? They probably saw them lose the Music City Bowl and thought wow these guys are shite
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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby DaRascal » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:44 am

This is extremely helpful since I'm still deciding where to go school this fall. Iowa's the real deal, huh? What an impressive ranking. I'm disappointed that my top choice (IUB) has fallen off the map and Wake Forest is just a disaster according to these rankings.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby romothesavior » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:52 am

DaRascal wrote:This is extremely helpful

No it isn't. Go troll in your own threads.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby bjsesq » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:56 am

DUKE TO 8. DUKE TO 8. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:22 am

Just happy UMN managed to stay in the top 20

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby pamphleteer » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:34 am

minnbills wrote:Just happy UMN managed to stay in the top 20


I'm honestly curious as to how this keeps happening. I'm guessing it's mainly on the strength of UMN's reputational score but why is its reputation so good? It isn't attached to a prestigious undergrad and it doesn't place its graduates into particularly prestigious positions. Is it mostly just the faculty?

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:35 am

pamphleteer wrote:
minnbills wrote:Just happy UMN managed to stay in the top 20


I'm honestly curious as to how this keeps happening. I'm guessing it's mainly on the strength of UMN's reputational score but why is its reputation so good? It isn't attached to a prestigious undergrad and it doesn't place its graduates into particularly prestigious positions. Is it mostly just the faculty?


I assume bribes

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby minnbills » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:36 am

pamphleteer wrote:
minnbills wrote:Just happy UMN managed to stay in the top 20


I'm honestly curious as to how this keeps happening. I'm guessing it's mainly on the strength of UMN's reputational score but why is its reputation so good? It isn't attached to a prestigious undergrad and it doesn't place its graduates into particularly prestigious positions. Is it mostly just the faculty?


Well, it's mostly reputation of the school itself. It's definitely not job placement.

UMN undergrad is actually one of the top public schools in the country, and it's getting better every year, so that's not an issue. The faculty is also pretty stellar (as far as credentials and rep are concerned, anyways).

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby bjsesq » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:38 am

UMN is an amazing public. Its health programs are some of the best in the country and its UG has a really solid reputation.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby Aftermath » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:40 am

Tennessee up 20 spots. I like it.

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Re: 2016 USNWR Law School Rankings (Top 100 in OP)

Postby storpappa » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:48 am

Many of the schools that send me daily law school spam mail offers did not appear to move up in the rankings.

i don't understand why
According to their emails they are the top in this, that or the other thing.




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