Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

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Re: Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

Postby BNA » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:14 pm

kartelite wrote:
Ron Don Volante wrote:
BNA wrote:Any way to compare actual placement numbers in a specific city? Two different, somewhat knowledgable people told me that UT actually places more of their class in Nashville than VU. Sounds crazy, but could there be something to that?

Unfortunately not. At least by the data publicly available. But if you set up an appointment with CSO people from UT, you might be able to get them to show you their raw data. Worked for me on a visit.

I would not be shocked if this stat were true. Vandy isn't horribly generous with scholarships, and most grads probably cant afford to get paid 50-60K a year to stick around Nashville (which is what the vast majority of entry-level legal jobs pay). Also Vandy has a largely out of state population, and as small law jobs are often about hustle, locals might have an advantage over Vandy folks not from Tenn., and the Vandy grads who missed out on biglaw might self-select back to their home regions for one reason or another.


As of last year, I've got 253 VU alumni at BigLaw (100+ lawyer firms) in Nashville, 159 from UT. That's all lawyers, not just recent placement though. Looking at 2010-2013 grads, it's 38 VU to 28 UT.


That's great information. Is there an existing resource for that, or did you have to dig?

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Re: Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

Postby kartelite » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:20 pm

BNA wrote:
kartelite wrote:
Ron Don Volante wrote:
BNA wrote:Any way to compare actual placement numbers in a specific city? Two different, somewhat knowledgable people told me that UT actually places more of their class in Nashville than VU. Sounds crazy, but could there be something to that?

Unfortunately not. At least by the data publicly available. But if you set up an appointment with CSO people from UT, you might be able to get them to show you their raw data. Worked for me on a visit.

I would not be shocked if this stat were true. Vandy isn't horribly generous with scholarships, and most grads probably cant afford to get paid 50-60K a year to stick around Nashville (which is what the vast majority of entry-level legal jobs pay). Also Vandy has a largely out of state population, and as small law jobs are often about hustle, locals might have an advantage over Vandy folks not from Tenn., and the Vandy grads who missed out on biglaw might self-select back to their home regions for one reason or another.


As of last year, I've got 253 VU alumni at BigLaw (100+ lawyer firms) in Nashville, 159 from UT. That's all lawyers, not just recent placement though. Looking at 2010-2013 grads, it's 38 VU to 28 UT.


That's great information. Is there an existing resource for that, or did you have to dig?


I spent a considerable amount of time (and money haha) putting together a huge searchable attorney database last year. At some point I'd like to make it publicly available on the interwebs, along with a high-level overview of a lot of (hopefully interesting) metrics.

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Re: Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

Postby BNA » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:29 pm

Great work. Details are what the pre-law community is missing. You going to monetize, or throw it out there with the rest of them?

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Re: Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

Postby kartelite » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:43 pm

BNA wrote:Great work. Details are what the pre-law community is missing. You going to monetize, or throw it out there with the rest of them?


Monetization would be great and just based on eye traffic (not subscription access) to the site - which I'd probably wanna build out in other ways..but even if I couldn't get much it'd be cool if I could provide people with that data. On that note, if anyone has any suggestions of legal-related "content" (random, funny, statistical) they'd like to see on a site also having this sorta database and info, suggestions are welcome.

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Re: Rank v Alum for Southern Placement

Postby Ron Don Volante » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:26 am

Thats awesome. Please find a way to make this data available and get the word out by April. Even if you'd just temporarily throw it up on a Google doc, it'd really help out a lot of 0Ls.




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