Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

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Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby khaleesiqueen1 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:23 am

Hey TLS,

I want to practice in Portland and I'm interested in environmental law. Which is the better option to achieve this:

Stanford with $$ (35k annually)
Lewis & Clark (no scholarship info yet) -- assuming full ride.

Thanks.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby ilikebaseball » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:24 am

Stanford.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby maroon175 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:38 am

Stanford with no scholarship would still probably be the better option.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:43 am

Stanford, with the caveat that getting back to PDX is difficult even coming from top schools. The T3 prestige factor will certainly open up doors, but if you're not from the area, they will view you as an outsider. And if you are from the area, they will view you as a traitor for leaving, even for a top school.

But the Stanford name will help neutralize some of that suspicion, and will also give you the backup of being able to look for jobs in other markets.

I'm not trying to be too pessimistic. Stanford + decent grades + local PDX ties and you'd probably be just fine. Just don't underestimate the insularity and tiny size of the Portland legal market as a whole and the miniscule enviro law field specifically.

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Postby romothesavior » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:51 pm

Stanford by a country mile.

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Postby BigZuck » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:11 pm

The OP has a 3.1/167 and got into Stanford?

Also, they are an international student and their country is paying. And they care about saving a little more by going to Lewis and Clark?

Something doesn't add up here.

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Postby fats provolone » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:13 pm

maybe they meant Stamford

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Postby BigZuck » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:17 pm

fats provolone wrote:maybe they meant Stamford

Whatever it is I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

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Postby fats provolone » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:18 pm

maury is filmed there so that's a plus

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Postby Rigo » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:21 pm

Stanford hands down.

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Postby rpupkin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:25 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Stanford, with the caveat that getting back to PDX is difficult even coming from top schools. The T3 prestige factor will certainly open up doors, but if you're not from the area, they will view you as an outsider. And if you are from the area, they will view you as a traitor for leaving, even for a top school.

Eh. The Portland market is extremely insular. But someone who grew up in Portland and then goes to law school at Stanford (or Harvard or Yale) is not generally viewed as "a traitor" for attending a top school. A Portland native who goes to SLS (and who consistently shows a strong interest in returning to the Portland market) is probably going to do fine.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby Clemenceau » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:28 pm

What happened here

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Postby FloridaCoastalorbust » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:46 pm

Clemenceau wrote:What happened here

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Postby BigZuck » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:23 pm

rpupkin wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Stanford, with the caveat that getting back to PDX is difficult even coming from top schools. The T3 prestige factor will certainly open up doors, but if you're not from the area, they will view you as an outsider. And if you are from the area, they will view you as a traitor for leaving, even for a top school.

Eh. The Portland market is extremely insular. But someone who grew up in Portland and then goes to law school at Stanford (or Harvard or Yale) is not generally viewed as "a traitor" for attending a top school. A Portland native who goes to SLS (and who consistently shows a strong interest in returning to the Portland market) is probably going to do fine.


Serious question: Where do you think the traitor line should be drawn? Are you only a traitor if you go to a school ranked 4 and below?

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby UnderTheLaw » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:26 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Serious question: Where do you think the traitor line should be drawn? Are you only a traitor if you go to a school ranked 4 and below?


This is a great question that I hope we can discuss.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby ballcaps » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:28 pm

i...don't...understand...

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Postby BigZuck » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:29 pm

UnderTheLaw wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
Serious question: Where do you think the traitor line should be drawn? Are you only a traitor if you go to a school ranked 4 and below?


This is a great question that I hope we can discuss.


ty

Still working on trying to figure out what the OP's deal is, I'll report back when I find something

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Postby rpupkin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:31 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Serious question: Where do you think the traitor line should be drawn? Are you only a traitor if you go to a school ranked 4 and below?

Duke. The traitor line should be drawn at Duke.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:46 pm

rpupkin wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
Serious question: Where do you think the traitor line should be drawn? Are you only a traitor if you go to a school ranked 4 and below?

Duke. The traitor line should be drawn at Duke.

The traitor line is definitely drawn somewhere north of NU.

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Postby 03152016 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:05 pm

BigZuck wrote:The OP has a 3.1/167 and got into Stanford?

Also, they are an international student and their country is paying. And they care about saving a little more by going to Lewis and Clark?

Something doesn't add up here.

it's almost as if op was some kind of troll, making threads with ridiculous premises to get a rise out of tls
no, that couldn't happen. this is the internet

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby jbagelboy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:19 pm

US news and world report specialty surveys are particularly instructive. very important for the field, practitioners drool over them. Lewis & Clark #1 beats Stanford at #3 in general ranking.

However, financial considerations loom large. That's a lot of money from Stanford and definitely worth weighing against the value of a laughably flawed commercial magazine survey, but overall, I'd say the gap in prestige and notoriety in environmental law, a burgeoning field, is wide enough that you should take the extra debt and follow your dreams at L&C.

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby shay2171 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:36 am

You do realize that the Saudi Crown Prince chose lewis and clark over stanford right? TLS Bias

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby khaleesiqueen1 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:23 pm

Thanks guys appreciate your input

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby khaleesiqueen1 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:25 pm

shay2171 wrote:You do realize that the Saudi Crown Prince chose lewis and clark over stanford right? TLS Bias


source?

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Re: Stanford $$ or Lewis & Clark for environmental law?

Postby NonTradLawHopeful » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:31 pm

What happened to Cornell and GULC?




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