Brut wrote:jw316 wrote:Brut wrote:i knew you would do that
i even said you'd do it in an attempt to shame you, but you couldn't stop yourself
this is so sad
What's more sad is your desire to want to turn it into a dick measuring contest/argument between you and me. Yes Brut I concede everything to you. The sky is green. You're right. I'm an idiot. For the millionth time it isn't about me. I'm not considering these schools and wouldn't and I'm not trying to sell OP on attending somewhere he wasn't considering. I'm trying to clear up the fact that yes LST says this about employment statistics and yes LST is right but it's also not surprising given the caliber of the average student/graduate of the school and that OP likely doesn't fit that mold.
But still doesn't change my question.
Where should OP go to school oh wise and all knowing Brut? And does that school place better in Michigan/metro-Detroit?
Whatever I was saying about Wayne is irrelevant, I'm just still waiting to hear all of these schools that place better!
quoting this post in case you try to delete it later
Don't have time to dick measure Brut! You win! I'm out!
Re-quoting the below in case it gets lost in the dick measuring. There you go OP, someone else chiming in. This is where I bow out because for the millionth time it isn't about me, it's about you. I'm not even considering either of these schools but was just trying to help someone who is considering them, with the added view of living in Michigan and extensively looking into the state of the legal market here before deciding I would/had to go another route. I know Michigan because I had to figure out if I could stay here and accomplish my career goals—it's possible coming from UMichigan but even with that I'd have to be at least top third of my class and would still be leaving the state upon graduation. So in my own decision, doesn't really make sense for me to stay in Michigan. My PMs are open, even if it's just offering advice on where you should grab a burger in Ann Arbor or Detroit.
AReasonableMan wrote:If you are alright working in Michigan and there are no stipulations on the full ride, the Wayne choice isn't terrible assuming you don't want big law or a prestigious position right out of law school.
Notre Dame has a lot of lay prestige but not great placement, which results in very smart students attending but not great job options outside the top of the class. I would imagine the competition is going to be comparable to a t-14, but that LR would be required to compete with median at a t-14. This is a very bad position.
It's heresy to say you can predict grades on this website, but the truth is that you can to some vague degree. You may or may not be above median at ND, but all available data suggests that with your numbers, you will do very well at Wayne. Obviously the issue is it's too risky to assume you'll be #1 or in the top 5%, but if you didn't have debt you wouldn't have to be.
Retaking is the better option, because with a 10 point improvement, you could get close to a full ride to Michigan where you'll be in a great position. There is no scenario where the difference would justify paying full cost to Notre Dame, and if there are no stips on your Wayne scholarship there is an argument it is a better option than sticker at Michigan.
Thank you. You are aptly named.