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Law School Rankings

Postby logdog » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:19 am

Business Insider recently released its annual law school rankings. After the usual top 20ish schools, they mix things up a bit. For example, in Texas the rankings are: #19 UT, #22 Baylor, #38 SMU. Additionally, some of the schools are often on the "don't go unless it's free" list on this forum. What are TLS's thoughts?

http://www.businessinsider.com/law-scho ... ng-2014-11

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby ymmv » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:23 am

They're a joke. No one cares.

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Clemenceau » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:24 am

Georgetown 5 spots ahead of Penn? hmmm

This set of rankings seems to follow lay prestige to a t, which is not too surprising considering they used a survey monkey poll to evaluate

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby foles » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:26 am

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby ScottRiqui » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:37 am

foles wrote:I must be missing something.

"To create this list, we surveyed more than 300 American legal professionals"
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"Approximately b[]52% of survey participants said they have a law degree[/b], while 3.5% reported that they had a partial degree"

???

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-law ... gy-2014-11


My first guess would be that they're including paralegals in the "legal professionals" class.

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Kratos » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:14 pm

Like all arbitrary rankings, these are useless.

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby hoos89 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:40 pm

Employment stats are a substantially better way to judge a law school than any ranking.

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:44 pm

What's a "partial degree?"

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Kimikho » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:03 pm

well damn I knew I should have stayed at columbia :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby 03152016 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:42 pm

To create this list, we surveyed more than 300 American legal professionals to determine the best law schools in the US with the help of SurveyMonkey.

This year Yale replaced Harvard as the No. 1 school.

Our survey asked participants to select the top 10 law schools in terms of how well they prepare students to land their ideal job. We recorded the percentage of respondents that ranked each school in the top 10.

Approximately 52% of survey participants said they have a law degree, while 3.5% reported that they had a partial degree, meaning they're either still in law school or dropped out.

what a fucking joke
anyone who gives these rankings any weight in their decision-making and is aware of the methodology has no business going to any law school

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby 03152016 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:47 pm

gulc > c/n
baylor > wustl
fucking cuny > usc

they're not even trying
seriously, they picked schools out of a hat

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:00 pm

Brut wrote:fucking cuny > usc


Clearly you're not very interested in the public

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby 03152016 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:11 pm

lol

i do hate the cuny pi shtick tho

"i go to cuny b/c no other law school has cuny's pi focus"
this is literally something that an actual person said on tls

the administration pushes it b/c the private sector has zero interest in cuny grads
and i know more than a few people who were aiming for better schools, didn't get in, got admitted to cuny, and suddenly developed a passion for indigent defense

also if cuny was so well respected in the pi world, they wouldn't advertise access to nyu's pilc fair as a selling point
and they wouldn't have a 48% employment rate with 37% underemployment despite a class size of only 104

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Calbears123 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:19 pm

USC 39? hmmm

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Kratos » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:19 pm

Calbears123 wrote:USC 39? hmmm

yea that's the one that really raises a red flag about the stupidity of these ranking

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby ymmv » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:22 pm

Kratos wrote:
Calbears123 wrote:USC 39? hmmm

yea that's the one that really raises a red flag about the stupidity of these ranking


...and nothing struck you about a T7 GULC?

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby Kratos » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:44 pm

ymmv wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Calbears123 wrote:USC 39? hmmm

yea that's the one that really raises a red flag about the stupidity of these ranking


...and nothing struck you about a T7 GULC?

Yea I was being sarcastic

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby 03152016 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:51 pm

i'd put usc somewhere in the 30s if bob morse handed me the reins
they're 51th in job employment, and that's WITH a 4.2% school funded rate
and they're right around the middle in underemployment (23.9% + 2.1% unknown)
maybe they get some credit for bl+fc and the fact it's an oversaturated market
but i'm p sure student selectivity and peer/lawyer assessment is what keeps them afloat in usnwr

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Re: Law School Rankings

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:36 pm

Brut wrote:i'd put usc somewhere in the 30s if bob morse handed me the reins
they're 51th in job employment, and that's WITH a 4.2% school funded rate
and they're right around the middle in underemployment (23.9% + 2.1% unknown)
maybe they get some credit for bl+fc and the fact it's an oversaturated market
but i'm p sure student selectivity and peer/lawyer assessment is what keeps them afloat in usnwr


for LA hiring purposes in the private sector and with federal judges, it's still very much UCLA/USC as peers above everyone not a T14 though. So I think this is a little harsh, but I suppose it depends on where you want to be.




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