daryldixon wrote:jbagelboy wrote:banjo wrote:daryldixon wrote:It is impossible to know because we have no data about who specifically "wanted" biglaw and how they went about trying to get it.
At CLS OCS tells us what percent of OCI participants got at least one offer out of OCI. 85% for c/o 2012, 92% for c/o 2013, and 86% for c/o 2015. I've never seen an actual figure for c/o 2014, but I've heard it was lower.
We also have a brand new list that compares anticipated and actual outcomes: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=227978
Forgot to add that we also get a list of every firm people bid on, # of screeners, # of callbacks, # of accepted callbacks, # of offers, and # of accepted offers. If you search around TLS you can find a link to this.
Right, hence, 10-15% strike-out for people that wanted big law (and since people who go to offices/large firms not at OCI aren't counted in this data, it's always a smudge lower than that striking out in the end). I know Chicago can post the same range, and I'm giving Harvard and Stanford the benefit of the doubt that they can too due to the deference we give those schools on TLS (and as I said above, I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford had even lower strike-out rates).
daryl: just admit you were wrong and we can move past it this is a silly point.
I am not wrong and you have conveniently refused to argue all of the other points I made to dispute your crappy arguments.
OCI participation doesn't necessarily equate to the number of people that wanted or got big law. Those figures are leaving out the no-offers, cold offers, or people that wanted big law but chose not to participate in OCI. Also we have no data from the other top schools regarding OCI performance and Columbia is arguably the top big law producing school in the t14.
There is similar data available for Uchi. Last year someone calculated the list that OCS gives us, and 77% of 2L's for c/o 2013 (not just OCI participants) were working at NLJ250 firms. Yes, that leaves out no-offers, but it also leaves out people going to boutiques or who don't care about OCI. I don't know what the numbers are like for other schools, but I'm guessing they are similar.