What law schools have the best faculty?

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What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby timmyd » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:35 pm

I hear/read alot of comments from law students and practitioners stating that law school really didnt prepare them at all for practice or that they did not learn much in law school. Does this depend to an extent on the level of the professors teaching the subjects? I attend UT and have found most of my professors are exceptional and I learn a great deal every day which I may or may not use in everyday practice.
My question is, what schools are known for having the best faculty? Does it tend to correlate to the USNR?

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby famousblueraincoat » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:05 pm

What do you mean by "best faculty?" From what I understand, not being prepared for actual practice is more of an issue regarding how law school is structured, not how well a professor explains a given topic. Maybe you'd be interested in schools with the most robust/useful clinics and externships? Yale is the only school in the country that I know of that allows students to represent clients as early as 1L Spring due to some antiquated CT law.

Looks like it more or less correlates to USNews, but also a bit with location and preference. Being in close proximity to ginormous legal centers like NYC or DC obviously opens up a lot of opportunities to extern/intern.

But its probably the same crap everywhere divided by how much work you, as an individual, are willing to put forth w/r/t getting real-world experience to supplement the largely theoretical education received in the classroom.

Right?

Idk, bored 0L at work :?

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby timbs4339 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:11 pm

The schools with the "best faculty" (I too don't know what you mean by this) are likely to leave you the most unprepared for practice.

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Postby Lavitz » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:17 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:You've probably already seen these, but if you haven't:

http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2013_AAAS.shtml
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2012_ ... pact.shtml

Trolling for Chicago as usual, I see. :wink:

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby 2014 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:26 pm

I personally believe that membership in the academy is a great proxy for quality.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:27 pm

I bet even 2014 can't read Leiter with a straight face.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby 052220151 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:45 pm

Who cares dude, be worried about job prospects.

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Postby Otunga » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:48 pm

As someone once interested in an advanced philosophy degree, I checked out Leiter's faculty rankings as well as his statements on which schools are the most philosophically rigorous or have the best related offerings. Many weren't t14.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby ZGr88n » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:50 pm

deputydog wrote:Dude, be worried about job prospects.

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Postby timmyd » Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:08 pm

Oh I am very worried about job prospects. I was just bored earlier today and was thinking about the subject. I'm a 2l by the way so I know that job placement trumps all. I do, however, think it is important to receive excellent teaching.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:20 pm

I had a lot of really excellent teachers in law school (lower T1). About 90% of what they taught me excellently has nothing to do with what I did in my job, but they taught it really well.

And faculty don't get ranked much anywhere for their ability to teach. The coin of the realm in academia is publications. I'm sure there are awesome instructors at the bottom law schools (especially since getting a law prof job is so difficult that profs at even schools like Golden Gate have excellent qualifications), but that's not going to get them on a "best profs" list.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby JazzieShizzle » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:41 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:You've probably already seen these, but if you haven't:

http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2013_AAAS.shtml
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2012_ ... pact.shtml

Just skimming through the rankings, there doesn't seem to be a strong correlation between job prospects and top faculty.
Look at #47 for a good example: American and U of Alabama in the same rank lol

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby 2014 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:58 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:I bet even 2014 can't read Leiter with a straight face.

You should see him in person, I struggle to keep it together when I see him rolling through the halls in his new balances and beer belly. Word is he's a killer teacher though.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby MAHamlin » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:27 am

Joke told by a professor of mine last week:

"How many University of Chicago Law School professors does it take to change a light bulb?

None. If the market wanted the light bulb to change, it would have changed by now."

Doesn't really speak to the quality of faculty, but it felt somewhat relevant (in a lighthearted way) to the topic.

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby WhiteyCakes » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:27 am

MAHamlin wrote:Joke told by a professor of mine last week:

"How many University of Chicago Law School professors does it take to change a light bulb?

None. If the market wanted the light bulb to change, it would have changed by now."

Doesn't really speak to the quality of faculty, but it felt somewhat relevant (in a lighthearted way) to the topic.


That's a 186 joke actually

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Re: What law schools have the best faculty?

Postby Crowing » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:23 pm

WhiteyCakes wrote:
MAHamlin wrote:Joke told by a professor of mine last week:

"How many University of Chicago Law School professors does it take to change a light bulb?

None. If the market wanted the light bulb to change, it would have changed by now."

Doesn't really speak to the quality of faculty, but it felt somewhat relevant (in a lighthearted way) to the topic.


That's a 186 joke actually


Are you in the overheard at UChicago Law FB group? There are some great moments from profs in there. Strauss has been killin' it.

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