Lwoods1020 wrote:PSU. no question
first penn state advocate!! do you mind giving me your insight/reasoning for this? u could PM me if u want. i greatly appreciate it!
Lwoods1020 wrote:PSU. no question
legal-eagle wrote:Lwoods1020 wrote:PSU. no question
first penn state advocate!! do you mind giving me your insight/reasoning for this? u could PM me if u want. i greatly appreciate it!
rickgrimes69 wrote:legal-eagle wrote:Lwoods1020 wrote:PSU. no question
first penn state advocate!! do you mind giving me your insight/reasoning for this? u could PM me if u want. i greatly appreciate it!
Disregard whatever she tells you. There is absolutely zero justification for attending PSU at that price, particularly when you want to work in Jersey and have a full ride from the state flagship.
TheSpanishMain wrote:rickgrimes69 wrote:legal-eagle wrote:Lwoods1020 wrote:PSU. no question
first penn state advocate!! do you mind giving me your insight/reasoning for this? u could PM me if u want. i greatly appreciate it!
Disregard whatever she tells you. There is absolutely zero justification for attending PSU at that price, particularly when you want to work in Jersey and have a full ride from the state flagship.
Yeah, seriously. What conceivable reason could there be for choosing PSU over Rutgers when you want to stay in Jersey and Rutgers is free? Even if PSU were free, I'd still say Rutgers.
donewithannarbor wrote:Congrats my friend! I can't say enough good things about Rutgers-Newark. Work hard, get on a journal, get good grades, and soak up everything the school has to offer. The top 50% almost always gets of on the right foot post-grad, and the top 20% get some very nice opportunities. I disagree that NYC biglaw is off the table-- i know way too many people at too many of these firms to let that comment slide. That said, if you graduate without debt, money won't be an issue, and you should only go for biglaw if you want that lifestyle, or if you want to parlay it into something else like a federal clerkship, or, down the road, in-house or partner at an NJ firm.
Another thing: Newark doesn't suck. I've lived here for three years of school and continue to live here while making a good salary. I will leave soon only because my significant other works in Brooklyn. As a slight indicator of where Newark is heading, note that a newly converted residential/loft building, a corporate HQ, and a Whole Foods are all simultaneously being built one/two blocks from the law school. I attended before before these developments and still found the area pleasant enough. Where would you commute from? If from the first ring suburbs or Jersey City, fine, but if from further out, I consider that a bad lifestyle for a first year and would recommend living on campus, unless you're on a dependable train line so you can read and think while you commute.
There are two other threads, including one with my thoughts on Rutgers-Newark:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223092
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223665
legal-eagle wrote:donewithannarbor wrote:Congrats my friend! I can't say enough good things about Rutgers-Newark. Work hard, get on a journal, get good grades, and soak up everything the school has to offer. The top 50% almost always gets of on the right foot post-grad, and the top 20% get some very nice opportunities. I disagree that NYC biglaw is off the table-- i know way too many people at too many of these firms to let that comment slide. That said, if you graduate without debt, money won't be an issue, and you should only go for biglaw if you want that lifestyle, or if you want to parlay it into something else like a federal clerkship, or, down the road, in-house or partner at an NJ firm.
Another thing: Newark doesn't suck. I've lived here for three years of school and continue to live here while making a good salary. I will leave soon only because my significant other works in Brooklyn. As a slight indicator of where Newark is heading, note that a newly converted residential/loft building, a corporate HQ, and a Whole Foods are all simultaneously being built one/two blocks from the law school. I attended before before these developments and still found the area pleasant enough. Where would you commute from? If from the first ring suburbs or Jersey City, fine, but if from further out, I consider that a bad lifestyle for a first year and would recommend living on campus, unless you're on a dependable train line so you can read and think while you commute.
There are two other threads, including one with my thoughts on Rutgers-Newark:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223092
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223665
hey thanks so much for the information! i will check those other threads out.
i would be commuting from piscataway, its about a 30-40 min drive depending on traffic but there's also a train station near me. i am going to visit the campus during my spring break to see if i may want to live on campus. i know people that go to the nursing school at RU newark and they have no problem with the area
by the way, do u know anything about the minority student program there?
again thanks for the help
Amy
timbs4339 wrote:legal-eagle wrote:donewithannarbor wrote:Congrats my friend! I can't say enough good things about Rutgers-Newark. Work hard, get on a journal, get good grades, and soak up everything the school has to offer. The top 50% almost always gets of on the right foot post-grad, and the top 20% get some very nice opportunities. I disagree that NYC biglaw is off the table-- i know way too many people at too many of these firms to let that comment slide. That said, if you graduate without debt, money won't be an issue, and you should only go for biglaw if you want that lifestyle, or if you want to parlay it into something else like a federal clerkship, or, down the road, in-house or partner at an NJ firm.
Another thing: Newark doesn't suck. I've lived here for three years of school and continue to live here while making a good salary. I will leave soon only because my significant other works in Brooklyn. As a slight indicator of where Newark is heading, note that a newly converted residential/loft building, a corporate HQ, and a Whole Foods are all simultaneously being built one/two blocks from the law school. I attended before before these developments and still found the area pleasant enough. Where would you commute from? If from the first ring suburbs or Jersey City, fine, but if from further out, I consider that a bad lifestyle for a first year and would recommend living on campus, unless you're on a dependable train line so you can read and think while you commute.
There are two other threads, including one with my thoughts on Rutgers-Newark:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223092
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=223665
hey thanks so much for the information! i will check those other threads out.
i would be commuting from piscataway, its about a 30-40 min drive depending on traffic but there's also a train station near me. i am going to visit the campus during my spring break to see if i may want to live on campus. i know people that go to the nursing school at RU newark and they have no problem with the area
by the way, do u know anything about the minority student program there?
again thanks for the help
Amy
Yeah, no. You are not going to get NYC biglaw from R-N. There may be five people per class who get it. This person is absolutely, 100% shilling for the school or has his head up his ass. That a bunch of boomer partners are alumni of R-N is absolutely just peachy keen, and doesn't mean anything for you, since they're going to hire 90% of their class from various T14 schools anyway.
Again, here are the employment stats: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=rutgers-newark
6.6% of the class got biglaw, .8% got a fed clerkship (that's like one person).
You're not going to just "work hard" and see the doors to Cleary and STB swing open for you.
sublime wrote:Newark objectively sucks. But I'd live there if it offered my best option. Having to show Identification to get into most buildings would get old quickly.
Lwoods1020 wrote:sublime wrote:I don't even see how this is an argument. You'll find a job in NJ if you go to PSU.
TheSpanishMain wrote:Lwoods1020 wrote:sublime wrote:I don't even see how this is an argument. You'll find a job in NJ if you go to PSU.
What are you basing this on? Penn State grads overwhelmingly work in Pennsylvania. It doesn't have much, if any, geographic range.
Lwoods1020 wrote:sublime wrote:Newark objectively sucks. But I'd live there if it offered my best option. Having to show Identification to get into most buildings would get old quickly.
thank you. anyone who doesn't think newark sucks and is living in a dream world and in denial.
IDC how cheap rutgers / seton hall is for you over penn state. the facial reconstructive surgery you'll need after being mugged and beaten is gonna be $$$$$
and if you're gonna pay housing for newark, why go there? go to penn state.
I don't even see how this is an argument. You'll find a job in NJ if you go to PSU.
Maybe I'll be in your 1l class this fall.
Lwoods1020 wrote:TheSpanishMain wrote:Lwoods1020 wrote:sublime wrote:I don't even see how this is an argument. You'll find a job in NJ if you go to PSU.
What are you basing this on? Penn State grads overwhelmingly work in Pennsylvania. It doesn't have much, if any, geographic range.
I work at a big law firm in NJ, with PSU grads here and in adversary firms. The alumni network is extensive and like a cult. I know that a few doesn't say anything definitely as a whole but it is possible.
and see post about Newark face beating.
TheSpanishMain wrote:I don't doubt that it's possible to get a NJ job coming out of PSU.
However, since OP wants to live and work in NJ, PSU makes no sense.
Here are the choices: PSU for 100k for a small chance at getting a NJ job.
Rutgers for free for a pretty solid chance at getting a NJ job.
Paying 100k for less of a chance at a NJ job just because Newark sucks is retarded.
rwhyAn wrote:TheSpanishMain wrote:I don't doubt that it's possible to get a NJ job coming out of PSU.
However, since OP wants to live and work in NJ, PSU makes no sense.
Here are the choices: PSU for 100k for a small chance at getting a NJ job.
Rutgers for free for a pretty solid chance at getting a NJ job.
Paying 100k for less of a chance at a NJ job just because Newark sucks is retarded.
+1,000,000.
You know, I'd like to go to University of Hawaii law school and enjoy my weekends having cocktails on Waikiki while looking at the beautiful girls in their bikinis, but the pricetag is too damn high to justify the probable outcome from a school like that. Yeah, Newark sucks (I can say this as I live in NJ) and State College is much more attractive, but it's not as attractive as not having a six-figure debt hanging over your head. If location is the issue, think of this: you'd be much more likely to die an early death from the stress resulting from the debt you incurred at PSU than from getting mugged in Newark.
Lwoods1020 wrote:rwhyAn wrote:TheSpanishMain wrote:I don't doubt that it's possible to get a NJ job coming out of PSU.
However, since OP wants to live and work in NJ, PSU makes no sense.
Here are the choices: PSU for 100k for a small chance at getting a NJ job.
Rutgers for free for a pretty solid chance at getting a NJ job.
Paying 100k for less of a chance at a NJ job just because Newark sucks is retarded.
+1,000,000.
You know, I'd like to go to University of Hawaii law school and enjoy my weekends having cocktails on Waikiki while looking at the beautiful girls in their bikinis, but the pricetag is too damn high to justify the probable outcome from a school like that. Yeah, Newark sucks (I can say this as I live in NJ) and State College is much more attractive, but it's not as attractive as not having a six-figure debt hanging over your head. If location is the issue, think of this: you'd be much more likely to die an early death from the stress resulting from the debt you incurred at PSU than from getting mugged in Newark.
well I hope you're right for OP's sake. I'm from NJ too and I couldn't be paid to commute or live in newark. I hope the best for you legaleagle or whatever your name is
donewithannarbor wrote:I am happy to hear your report, Lwoods, but I just don't see any PSU alums in my circles. I just don't see it being the same impact player as Legal-Eagle's other two options, in her desired market. I am with SpanishMain and rwhyAn. Plus, Newark, no matter how scared some people here are of it, is full of state, federal and admin courthouses, law firms, large state/federal/prosecutors offices, and corporations. It's 20 minutes from Manhattan. PSU, despite its good name, cannot bring THAT much to the table, if for no other reason that geography.
So let me get this straight, Timbs, you attack me for calling out an utter misstatement ("not getting NYC biglaw from these schools") and then throw in your own factually false statement ("5 biglaw per year")? I am compelled to check this site occasionally knowing how much disparagement of non-T14 schools occurs here. Case in point. Your directive that Legal-Eagle retake the LSAT speaks for itself.
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