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Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:38 am
by apartius
The school placed me on their waitlist and it is the highest ranked school that I have a chance at attending. I have just sent in my letter of continuing interest (LOCI) and a couple of additional letter of recommendations. My GPA is 3.80 and my LSAT was < 25% of their median. I am not an overall great test taker so if I retake the LSAT I am not sure how much better I could do.

If I attend I will probably be paying sticker and this is where a lot of my doubt comes in if I should attend or not. I am not sure about scholarship money from them and if I get some grants and cash that would be fantastic. But I am not 100% sure on this front.

I want to work in the public interest sector for local governments. I want to stay in the Washington D.C. area and I was recently rejected from Georgetown. So my best option is GWU, I have gotten into other D.C. schools.

Should I pay sticker? What are the job prospects? And is it worth it to go to law school outside of the T14?

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:42 am
by Nova
1. No. Sticker @ GW is a rip off. Assuming you're financing your education mostly with loans, if you attend @ sticker, you'll probably end up financially ruined.

2. Check http://www.lawschooltransparency.com

3. Yes, if its affordable and your goals are realistic & modest. (not big law)

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:49 am
by timbs4339
They placed 20% of their graduating class into school-funded jobs paying $15/hour a few years back. Remove those jobs from the statistics and they're not much better than most other law schools. Don't take on sticker debt. Instead, study for the LSAT, don't accept "I'm a bad test taker" (honestly how much did you study) as an excuse, and go to a T14 next year.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=gw

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:59 pm
by nebula666
"LSAT 155 and GPA 3.8"

Retake

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:22 pm
by kershka
No because of all the reasons previously stated and this http://abovethelaw.com/2014/01/law-scho ... hibitions/

In all seriousness, your GPA is way too strong to not retake. Don't go into studying with a defeatist attitude, follow the guides here on TLS, and put a serious couple months of study in and you can ace that LSAT and have a great cycle next year.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:28 pm
by worldtraveler
apartius wrote:The school placed me on their waitlist and it is the highest ranked school that I have a chance at attending. I have just sent in my letter of continuing interest (LOCI) and a couple of additional letter of recommendations. My GPA is 3.80 and my LSAT was < 25% of their median. I am not an overall great test taker so if I retake the LSAT I am not sure how much better I could do.

If I attend I will probably be paying sticker and this is where a lot of my doubt comes in if I should attend or not. I am not sure about scholarship money from them and if I get some grants and cash that would be fantastic. But I am not 100% sure on this front.

I want to work in the public interest sector for local governments. I want to stay in the Washington D.C. area and I was recently rejected from Georgetown. So my best option is GWU, I have gotten into other D.C. schools.

Should I pay sticker? What are the job prospects? And is it worth it to go to law school outside of the T14?


How hard did you study for the LSAT? And what was your score?

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:01 am
by apartius
I took one of those classes from Powerscore and studied and attended every class. But I did not take near as many PTs as I had wanted to. 160 3.8, URM.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:04 am
by Nova
you should be able to do a lot better with those stats than GW @ near-sticker

but you should still retake in june

trust me, youll regret not maxing out your LSAT once you get to law school

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:38 am
by ClericalError
Nova wrote:you should be able to do a lot better with those stats than GW @ near-sticker

but you should still retake in june

trust me, youll regret not maxing out your LSAT once you get to law school



This, this and more this.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:43 am
by Mullens
apartius wrote:I took one of those classes from Powerscore and studied and attended every class. But I did not take near as many PTs as I had wanted to. 160 3.8, URM.



Sit out a cycle, study hard for the LSAT, enjoy HYS.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:55 am
by apartius
Thanks everyone! If I don't get the full-ride from American I will sit out. Should I go to American with a full-ride?

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:59 am
by brotherdarkness
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Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:05 am
by Nova
apartius wrote:Thanks everyone! If I don't get the full-ride from American I will sit out. Should I go to American with a full-ride?

theres less than a 40% chance youll practice law if you attend American
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=american

you can do better than that

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:06 am
by BigZuck
apartius wrote:Thanks everyone! If I don't get the full-ride from American I will sit out. Should I go to American with a full-ride?


American should be shut down. Someone should really step in and close it for good. No, don't attend even with a full ride.

You have the potential to get into Harvard. Look into the LSAT prep resources on here (there is a whole subforum devoted to that), retake, and enjoy much better options.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:14 am
by apartius
Wow. That does it! See you all next cycle. Thanks for all of your input.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:16 am
by BigZuck
Whelp, that was easy. High five guys!

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:52 am
by brotherdarkness
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Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:16 am
by worldtraveler
Did we actually convince someone to retake? Wow.

Good luck, OP.

I sat out a cycle and retook. Best decision I ever made.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:38 am
by BigZuck
worldtraveler wrote:I sat out a cycle and retook. Best decision I ever made.


+1

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:09 pm
by Nova
Good luck, OP

looking forward to hearing your success story a year from now

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:18 am
by apartius
A turn of events, I got into the University of Iowa Law School today should I go there? I wanted to practice in the DC area but it is a good school and it is relatively cheaper.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:27 am
by whereskyle
apartius wrote:A turn of events, I got into the University of Iowa Law School today should I go there? I wanted to practice in the DC area but it is a good school and it is relatively cheaper.


You should go there, only if you want to live and work in Iowa.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:53 am
by Nova
Iowa will limit you to Iowa unless you're top of the class.

Most of my family lives in Iowa. It kind of sucks there.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:33 am
by Jay2716
I don't know URM admissions that well, but with a 160 3.8, and depending on the type of URM, I think another 5-7 points would make you competitive for Harvard, and it would almost certainly get you money at Georgetown. DC is incredibly competitive, and HYS is totally attainable for you. If you really want DC, I would try to squeeze a few more points out of the LSAT.

Re: Should I go? George Washington University

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:19 pm
by kcdc1
I'll pile onto team-retake. My wife did GW at sticker and she would recommend anyone stay away. Unless you have very useful work experience (IP background, etc) or are unreasonably confident that you will wind up at the top of your class, attending GW at sticker is asking for 200k and poor job prospects. My wife found herself in that boat a few years back, and she counts herself lucky to have landed a job a year out of school that started her under 60k.